Americans are 'much sicker' than the English

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  1. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    According to...

    http://www.medpagetoday.com/PublicHealthPolicy/PublicHealth/tb/3214



    http://news.ft.com/cms/s/6c9dee06-d9ff-11da-b7de-0000779e2340.html




    Make mine a large chips, please... with a pint. :D
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  2. patrick0brien macrumors 68040

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    That was wierd

    -Blue Velvet

    I was just reading an article to this point. And I believe it.

    It's the stress.

    Heck! Look at the threads in this discussion! Lot's of stressed folks!
     
  3. eva01 macrumors 601

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    maybe that is why i never get *seriously* sick, just annoying things like my headaches thou it could be serious who knows.

    I just take stress well and go with the flow.

    Also the fact that america is fatter than England does have to do with the diabetes, heart disease, stroke

    not sure about the lung disease and cancer thou
     
  4. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    Its because we are becoming a nation of fat bastards. Its that simple.
     
  5. calebjohnston macrumors 68000

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    America is just a stressful place to live in. Everything has to be done INSTANTLY and PERFECTLY.
     
  6. Blue Velvet thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    I dunno. Most people I know in London are pretty stressed and before anyone chimes in, yes I know London is not England, but I only speak of my own experience.
     
  7. eva01 macrumors 601

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    i don't think america is that stressful of a place to live in. People just make it seem that way to themselves.
     
  8. Blue Velvet thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    Mind you, you may die earlier but your corpses will have better-looking teeth. :D
     
  9. eva01 macrumors 601

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    damn straight :p

    that is by far the best part of me is my teeth. I <3 my Teeth
     
  10. Jaffa Cake macrumors Core

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    Thing is, we know how to deal with stress properly in this country. There's no problem on earth that a nice cup of tea won't solve. ;)

    The differences are probably due to a whole host of factors. For example... are we in this country happy to walk in instances where our American cousins would hop in their cars? It's a small thing, but even a small amount of exercise can be beneficial. And could the fact that we get free healthcare mean that we're more at ease go and consult our doctors with health concerns earlier – meaning that potentially serious health problems can be detected earlier and so treated more effectively?
     
  11. patrick0brien macrumors 68040

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    -Blue Velvet

    Not my intent to sound argumentative, but I was actually pointing to the article's assertation on stress.

    As for what is going on? Well, yeah, I tend to agree with the 'stress' assertation. The it has been known for a long time that the US is addicted to the clock...
    calebjohnston's words
    ... Is quite true - though I'd amend it to read Instant, Perfect, Cheap, Quickly Forgotten, all under feeling that "We are bad people"

    Oh, yeah, and TERRIBLE manners (what happened?)

    edit:

    I agree with Jaffa Cake. Just-need-to-slow-the-frack-down-and-enjoy-tea-sometimes.
     
  12. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    one of the researchers was interviewed by NPR, i heard the piece this afternoon. i'll admit i haven't yet read the linked-to article, but the interviewee said they're not quite sure what causes the differences.

    he discussed in some detail what factors they removed (race, amount spent on healthcare, drinking, smoking, et. al.) but the large differences in rates of the tested-for diseases remained.

    however, i wouldn't rule out stress and physical activity differences, i'm just saying they weren't cited as causes in the interview.
     
  13. skunk macrumors G4

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    The stress of being represented on the world stage by George Bush must be intense.
     
  14. thedude110 macrumors 68020

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    All the more reason not to go to the doctor ...
     
  15. solvs macrumors 603

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    There are plenty of reasons for this and they're all obvious, so I'm not going to bother mentioning them.
     
  16. Deepdale macrumors 68000

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    I agree with you. While excessive stress is capable of shortening one's life span, I believe the primary culprit in America is the obesity epidemic coupled with sedentary lifestyles.
     
  17. iBlue macrumors Core

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    yeah, if only he could be surgically removed. ;)

    americans are generally rather high strung and difficult to please. this leads to all sorts of problems. i mean, what things do you do to ease your stress? the possibilities are endless and in america, they are seldom "healthy" choices. let's not forget all the hypocondriacs who run for pills at the drop of a sniffle. it makes for a weak bunch of people.
    but we'll always have fancy doctors to treat our fancy little problems in hearty helpings. ad nauseam. <sigh>

    (trying to avoid a tangent)
     
  18. Peyton macrumors 68000

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    I totally am in your boat about being sick, I don't even know what it feels like.
    Anyhow, (american here) I think it helps that we OVERDIAGNOSE EVERYONE that walks into a doctors office.

    Like everything here, its capitalism, the more medicine, the more money, more doctors, more scare tactics etc.

    Just like we are sue-happy, we are drug happy too. :(
     
  19. Blue Velvet thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    Well in that case, you should drop a line to the researchers who remain puzzled.

     
  20. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    If were true that American doctors "over-diagnose everyone," then it would stand to reason that Americans would be healthier overall than in countries where people are not "over-diagnosed." I've got plenty of issues with this U.S. medical system, but "over-diagnoses" isn't one of them.
     
  21. Peyton macrumors 68000

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    how about the millions of kids on ridalin (sp?) because of behavior problems? I've seen studies about this, one study even made up a person (completely made the person up) signed them up for treatment, couldn't meet with a doctor, and yet the doctor still perscribed medicine. I think I know your point, but respectfully disagree.:eek:
     
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    Many people do not seek treatment until their condition becomes serious,
    where being able to go to the doctor free as needed, is much more likely
    to catch things before they get worse.

    Big Pharma and the insurance industry also have a lot to do with the cost of medical care.
     
  23. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Your argument was that American doctors over-diagnose everyone. One for instance is hardly a proof for such a sweeping statement.

    I'd argue that the incentives in the health care system weigh far more more heavily on the under-treatment side of the ledger. Just ask anyone with an HMO plan if they're ever over-treated. If over-diagnoses and over-treatment is or was a problem, it would only be for people with blue-ribbon health insurance policies. These policies are becoming steadily scarcer. Most of us are living in a system that tries to prevent health care, not provide too much of it.
     
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    Yeah I'd believe it's the stress as well. Heck watching 5 minutes of CNN stresses me out and I'm in Canada. I'm not gonna say Canadians are that much different than Americans, but we certainly not afraid of a boogie man around every corner.
     
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    Somewhere at Langley a computer just logged that post and as we speak there's a dark coloured sedan pulling up outside your house with two guys in suits and shades 'reading their papers', they'll be there until nightfall when a plain white van will park up and it'll be there a week without you seeing anyone come or go but the neighboorhood dogs will all seem overly interested in it each time they go for a walk. If you report it to the cops it'll move on before they arrive and suddenly the telegraph pole across from your house will require the 'utility company engineer's' full attention, 24hrs-a-day.
     

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