...Another iWeb critique please

Discussion in 'Web Design and Development' started by runplaysleeprun, Sep 26, 2006.

  1. runplaysleeprun macrumors 6502a

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    #1
    I have to imagine there are loads of people asking for critiques, but I figure a few of you could spare a minute here and have a quick once-over on this site I just got together. Its for my irish band, and the url is
    http://www.curoiband.com

    I'm thinking about changing the paragraph font on the main page to something a little more legible, and maybe moving that google ad somewhere else. I'm not sure where it could go, though.

    Let me know what you guys think. Thanks.
     
  2. runplaysleeprun thread starter macrumors 6502a

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  3. gallagb macrumors 6502

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    pretty decent

    as you said that opening paragraph the font could be clearer/cleaner
    maybe just larger?
    idk- check it

    i use a 12" pb- and everything showed up nicely
    i did have to scroll down on every page
    but i'm pretty used to that

    some of the photos you choose seemed a bit dull
    the first bio photo was blurry

    i liked being able to play the song file
     
  4. runplaysleeprun thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks. I think I will change that first font maybe to something a little more plain. I think then, it also wont render as an image, but rather as plain text in iWeb-created sites.
     
  5. ThunderLounge macrumors 6502

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    Text:

    Why in an image? Just for the "fancy" font? I'd scrap it, because what if someone doesn't like that font size? What if they are blind? The alt tag just won't cut it for folks with a screen reader, and most certainly all the text in an image won't cut it for people that aren't blind, but need a larger font size.

    Search engines love text. The more they have to work with, the better off.


    Images:

    They look great, but there's too much file size eaten up with images. Considering what I would "presume" your target audience is with this site, I doubt all of them will have broadband access. A good size for the entire page would be about 100k to 120k for the entire page. Less if possible. The faster you can get the information loaded, the better off you'll be.

    Also, it looks like the main image on the home page (of the group) and the image below it overlap. Fine for Mac, bad for IE. Unfortunately, there's way more IE "idiots" out there than there are with a compliant browser. You may or may not have a fix in place for this, if so, cool.


    Links:

    Never put spaces in your file names. " About%20The%20Band.html " says nothing to a search engine, and confuses users. Try this instead: " about-the-band.html ". You'll have better luck. Not to mention it looks hideous to most users when they see a garbled mess. Something even easier would simply be about.html, and easier to type and remember too.

    For the "Bio's", the Bios.html doesn't work. It could work if it weren't in a sub-directory, but if you're going to stick with the sub-directory then the main "bio" listing should be index.html. That way, if someone heads off to " ...com/bios/ " they don't get a denied or 404 error, etc.

    Also when you're linking up to something, creating new files, or new directories, step away from using capitilization. While it might not make a difference on the box you're being hosted on now, if you need to move sometime, it might. Then, all your links in the SE's will be dead. For example, *nix based servers are spot on. If you say Bio.html, it won't pull up the bio.html file. Or vice versa.

    Finally, what is up with the "87E677A7-696D-46A2-AE2C-1F870A2417BC.html" for a bio page? Ouch! That's going to be tricky to tell someone. For example, we'll use Maggie. Someone comes up after a show and their chatting. They want to learn more about her background, so she refers them to your site. No big deal, but it's easier for someone to say " ...com/bios/maggie.html " or even " ...com/bios/maggie/ " (where use would use an index.html page in each directory, for each member. Or you could skip the whole bios sub-directory, keep a bios.html, and then have " ...com/maggie/ " for each member. That would be the simplest of all.



    Over all...

    Yes there's a page, but what does it really say about your group? It says, here's a picture and some text.

    It's a good start on content, and the light text on dark background works. But it needs something a bit more. Not some crazy flash, or further tricked graphics or somethign stupid, but something subtle.

    Something that builds an overall feel or Celtic heritage, or Irish passion. Again, nothing gimmicky, or tricky, just a "nice touch".

    Like I mentioned, the content is a great start. There's good information there, and room to build onto it as needed as well. The over all concept of presentation is good, but needs refined a bit. If you're an Irish band, make the user think about Ireland, and hear the music in their head.

    This would be a site that someone interested in the topic could easily get into. They just need that warm invitation to keep going.


    Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of sites out there that are complete crap. Frontpage is not your friend. ;)

    Your site isn't bad, but there's plenty of room for improvement. So far, so good though.
     
  6. runplaysleeprun thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks a million for the great review. I did indeed change the text on the main page, and it now renders as text, not as an image.

    As for the ....com/bios/ thing, it bugs me as well, along with all the subdirectories taking their names straight from the page name (including the spaces in the names being %20's), but its seemingly the only way iWeb will export it, and I have no clue how to change it. But I'm looking for a way.

    I agree with you, it could use a bit more depth and a Celtic-y feel without, hopefully, being tacky. I'll see if I can't obtain some nice designs or something that would fit in with the theme of the site.

    Thanks again.
     
  7. j26 macrumors 65832

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    There's not enough green, and not a leprechaun to be seen. It's not an Irish Band at all!!

    The only oher thing I'd add is that I noticed that the owner of the copyright is the first person listed in the bio's. That looks like ego. A minor thing, but I noticed it.
     
  8. runplaysleeprun thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    yeah, thats true. not ego, its just I was the first one to write my bio, and added them as they came in (of note, there are still 2 missing)

    And on that ego note and the lack of leprechaun, I could change my picture to this guy
    [​IMG]

    Thanks guys for all the advice!
     
  9. ThunderLounge macrumors 6502

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    I'm not exactly sure what, but there should be a little something that could spice it up without having to do the dancing leprechaun's after every line.

    Maybe a nice header that combines a shorter crop of the main image, with perhaps some knotwork faded over the top of it or something?

    Just don't think I'm being a mean twit though, because I really am into what you're trying to portray.

    If you ever start appearing outside of Chi, back towards the southwest of you a couple states, I'd be there.
     
  10. runplaysleeprun thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks. I like the idea of the faded knotwork.

    Hopefully (someday) we'll be able to organize something that could bring us out that way.
     
  11. ThunderLounge macrumors 6502

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    It would be subtle, yet effective. Granted, there's a lot of ways to incorporate it. It would be right along the traditional line, but no need for having kids chasing after your lucky charms, so to speak.
     
  12. EricNau Moderator emeritus

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    Get rid of the border around the copyright info.

    Looks good though. :)
     

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