Any Future Med Students Here?

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  1. Over Achiever macrumors 68000

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    I'm taking my MCAT tomorrow...joy.

    Pain in the @$$ 7-8 hour test.

    Anyone whose taken it can reply with their experiences.:)

    Anyone get accepted? Any advice for my applications?;)
    How is med school btw?

    Hehe, nothing to do with computers here :p
     
  2. arn macrumors god

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    Re: Any Future Med Students Here?

    I'm an Internal Medicine Resident. MCAT sucks... but nothing compared to Step 1 of the boards.

    For applications -> apply early... for med school for residency etc....

    arn
     
  3. Over Achiever thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Re: Re: Any Future Med Students Here?

    I never knew! :)

    Well, I can't apply early since i opted not to take the April MCAT...stupid decision, ah well. I'll be one of the last to apply...I have everything done except one essay and entering my summer class grades...oh yeah, and the MCAT scores...i guess i'm at a disadvantage huh?

    Wow...I never knew.

    Ok, I have to get off MacRumors to get sleep...
     
  4. galstaph macrumors 6502a

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    I'm going to be a future med student. I'm planning on taking MCAT next year. I want to finish my psycology BSc first. I'm starting second year sept. 9. Hope your test went well!
     
  5. MidnightRambler macrumors newbie

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    Seeing how I took the MCAT 21 years ago, I doubt you care about my opinion. ;)
     
  6. kiwi_the_iwik macrumors 65816

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    I used to play "Doctors & Nurses" - does that count?
     
  7. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    My wife is a first year intern/resident in internal medicine at Baylor. MCAT was stressful, but nothing compared to the STEP 1. She studied from November through June for that beast, and kicked its *ss. (Thank god).

    Take your time and answer all the questions right, and you'll be fine. :D

    Good luck.
     
  8. Wes macrumors 68020

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    I have a friend who's training to be a med person, and he's 16 and he has 10 more years of school, gosh that has to suck and then when you done you still have to be around sick people! LOL I admire all you for setting your goals high, me, I'm going to become some kinda techie haven't decided yet.
     
  9. Over Achiever thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Alright, I've taken my test, and I thought it went well. Its nice to know that there are some here that are med students, and not teenage cross-dressers:eek:!

    I could reply to all of you in separate posts to boost my post count, but instead, I'll double the thread length by quoting all of you. Hahehahehahehahehahe...darn, too many quotes...ah well...

    galstaph,

    Thanks, it did go well. And say, would you like to buy some "slightly" used MCAT review books?;) One week is too short to read an entire book...

    MidnightRambler,
    It was 21 years ago, but I hoped it went well for you. I'm guessing its a tad harder now, and a bit more competitive now :D So did you go to medical school, how was it, are you filthy rich;)...i mean 'enlightened' by your experience?:cool:

    kiwi_the_iwik,
    Sure...Why not :p

    mcrain,
    Baylor...thats in Houston right? That's one of the places my application is going...think your wife could put in a kind word for a complete stranger?;)
    I hope I never have to take the STEP 1...i have no idea what it is.

    W-_-W,
    I have a feeling your friend may change paths in college;)...i've seen many do so. Dude, the years just go by, and the clawing for As gets a bit annoying...make that VERY annoying...it just becomes a lifestyle I guess. Or maybe it's no life at all :D I like your path more...at least you're being realistic:).
     
  10. Wes macrumors 68020

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    I don't think his father will let him, he made one of his sons become a business man and is in college 2 year as we speak. He is set on having a doctor as a son.
     
  11. MidnightRambler macrumors newbie

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    Harder now? LMAO
    I doubt that very much. If anything I'd guess it's easier. Back in 1980 there were far more prospective students (4x as many applicants as today) competing for less med school slots as there are today.

    Universities, grad schools and professional schools were FAR more competitive then than they are now.



    I ended up at Physicians and Surgeons at Columbia. Played oncologist for a few years, then got depressed watching folks die. Started a software company designing medical applications, got bored and then started writing/directing/producing film and video. I do alright. ;) ....ok, maybe a bit better than 'alright'. :D


    But, one of the things I could NEVER stand were the guys like you, whose primary motivation for going into medicine is money. You want to get rich, go start a business. Want of wealth is the wrong reason to become a physician.
     
  12. Over Achiever thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Lemme just say...ouch.

    Being something your parents want you to...ouch.

    I'm tellin' ya...he'll switch!!!:D
     
  13. Over Achiever thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Well, it was more competitive back then...ouch. I thought we had it tough now...I never knew.:)

    And just to let you know, money is NOT my primary motivation. I really want to help others...my plan is to work for a few years in a HMO, save some money, then go to Vietnam (where my parents are from)...give free services for a couple of years. Then I'd repeat the process...I just think money is a perk for helping people, thats all. I also value the satisfaction of making a difference as well ;)

    One of my crazy goals is to have enough money to have the time to give door-to-door service mostly to help the elderly and poor...i think that'll freak people out though.:) Just imagine...your doctor comes to you:eek:!
     
  14. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    First, it wasn't just more competitive back then. It was so much worse than now. He had to walk barefoot in two foot deep snow to school every day, uphill, both ways! In addition, he had to live in a 100 square foot room with no lights, no heat, no air conditioning, and he and his 4 roomates all had to share books, and they ate leather shoe soup, but only once a day, because they had to let the shoes dry out so at least one of the roommates could have a pair of shoes to wear the next day. :D

    As for your future goals, let me give you some free law/tax advice. Don't do what you said. Instead, work full time and then, schedule a 3-4 week vacation where you fly to Vietnam, provide medical services, but don't collect payment for those services. Then you fly back to the states and deduct the value of the services you gave away for free. That will allow you to go over more often, have more money to help people, and not bankrupt yourself doing it. (plus you get a great deduction).

    Oh, and the Step 1 test is a mandatory test for all medical students between second and third year. If you fail, you may be required to redo those years. Step 2 is usually taken sometime during your fourth year. Step 3 is taken during or after residency (I'm not sure when).

    But, if you get into med school, you will HAVE to take the Step 1, and you will HAVE to study hard for it. First, it is very hard, and second, it determines to a large extent what specialties you can apply for residency to.

    FYI, because my wife did especially well, she was able to apply to any specialty without feeling like her scores were insufficient.

    As for a recommendation, she could tell them how wonderful you were till her face was blue (like her scrubs) and it wouldn't matter a bit. Grades, MCAT, letters of recommendation from your professors, extracurricular activities (both med and non-med related) and research are what will get you into med school.
     
  15. topicolo macrumors 68000

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    You were an onlcologist? wow, I'm working as a summer student at a cancer center right now. I'm hoping to go into oncology eventually but for now, I just plan on writing my MCATs either next year or the year after. I attending university here in Canada, but I'll probably apply for a couple of US schools, but I'm not sure yet. Do you have any suggestions or tips? Please? :)
     
  16. Over Achiever thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I can help with the MCAT

    Study for the MCAT when you'll take it...and take it in April, don't procrastinate like me and take it in August.;)

    Some classes that will help for the MCAT are zoology and animal physiology for the biology...i'm a physics major so i can't help you there...and pay attention in your chemistry classes!

    Kaplan is great for study materials, and I hear the Princeton Review is nice as well. Avoid REA...i bought a book that had 6 practice tests but they are nothing like the real deal.:mad:

    If you have the money, after all your reviewing, buy the 10$ AAMC online test (www.e-mcat.com) and print it, take it as the real deal. If you need more work, focus on it, then if you want to take more tests upgrade to the full online version. I found taking practice tests particularly helpful.

    I'm not sure if what I did will help my score since I only studied for a week, but those materials got me comfortable with the test. If you have money to spend, you can take the prep classes...i thought they were too expensive.

    Oncology is a great field i hear...good luck.
     
  17. Ifeelbloated macrumors regular

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    This has nothing to do with advice in a medical career but if any of you med types want a good laugh, rent the movie "Dr. Giggles". It's one of those hilariously bad horror movies.
     
  18. topicolo macrumors 68000

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    Thanks for the tips, Over-Achiever. I'll be getting ready for the MCAT soon. I heard that some people study as much as 1000 hours for this thing.
    That's pretty wild. Still, I'm going to take all of your recommendations into consideration when I start studying for it. Thx a lot

    w00t! 501st post!
     
  19. uhlawboi80 macrumors 6502

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    Mcrain....i see you are here in Houston! haha, i know a second year resident in internal medicine at baylor.

    My undergrad degrees were a BS in microbiology and a BS in biophysics and i even took the MCAT...then i took the LSAT and ended up in law school...go figure. But i am doing health law:p

    i thought the MCAT was a bitch but i didnt study a whole lot...my research and my job job kept my busy, but a 31 would have gotten me in somewhere i think...
     
  20. wilburpan macrumors regular

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    I see that I am coming late to this thread, but for the record, I'm a pediatric hematologist/oncologist.

    The MCAT was the last standardized test I did really well on. On the other hand, I don't have to take any more such tests. :D
     
  21. Over Achiever thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Ahh...my scores...

    Hi all,

    I finally got my scores back. It think they're ok...are they?
    VR-11, PS-14, WS-R, BS-10. The scales are 1-15 and J-T I think. My VR and WS scores are in the 85-95% range:), PS is in the 99.1-99.9% range:D, and the BS is in the 65-85% range :(. I know my applications depend on other stuff too, but these scores give me a good shot, right?

    They're not clear on what is a good score, but I'm pretty sure these are bad, right?
     
  22. Angelus macrumors 6502

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    What's the MCAT

    Hey i'm an irish med student and i'm just wondering what the MCAT is?Is it an entrance exam type thing? do you guys have to get degrees before you can study med?cos here in ireland we just go straight to college after secondary school(high school for you).
     
  23. Over Achiever thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Its sorta like an entrance exam. The MCAT is supposed to tell the schools "how well you'd do in your first year of med school" or something.

    Yup, you need a bachelor's degree (usually) to enter med school...sorta like grad school and such.
     
  24. Angelus macrumors 6502

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    Interesting,
    i think they are introducing that policy here in ireland soon so you will have to get a science degree before you can enter med.
    I prefer just starting med school straight away cos you are qualified earlier.My degree course is 5 years plus an intern year and if i want to be a G.P or surgeon or specialise in other words i'll have to add at least 2-7 onto that.Luckily they removed pre-med from my course so my 1st year is the same as last years 2nd year.Pre-med was a joke!
     
  25. wilburpan macrumors regular

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    In the U.S., the typical training goes:

    4 years college
    4 years med school (2 years classwork, 2 years clinical rotations)
    3-5 years internship/residency, depending on the field you are interested in
    1-3 years fellowship, if you want to subspecialize

    It's a lot of training, but I think that one of the things that this forces you into is that when you are done, there is an additional level of maturity that you can' get any other way. Some universities have an accelerated combined undergraduate/med school program, so that you finish college and med school in 6 years. Those students clearly have more issues in maturity by the time they hit the clinical rotations.

    Worse in my opinion, these programs accept the best and brightest of high school applicants. There is no evidence that students in accelerated programs perform better as physicians once they finish med school. This means that they don't suffer from the shorter educational path, but it also means that we've taken the best students from high school and turned them into average doctors.
     

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