anyone else disgusted with amount of ads?

Discussion in 'Community' started by bennetsaysargh, Jun 14, 2004.

  1. bennetsaysargh macrumors 68020

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    everywhere you go, you see ads. it's understandable, but when you see the same ones all the time, i think if you're not using a certain toothpaste, and attractive person on a billboard holding a tube of it is going to make you buy it. i am also talking more directly about ads online. it's a great source of revenue, but the attachment is an actual screenshot i took of cnn.com earlier today.
    thats is just stupid. i think i get the point by now.
     

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  2. King Cobra macrumors 603

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    I'm highly resistant to being triggered by the number of ads, simply because I know when I see one, and I'm not buying into them. For something to break that resistance would have to either [1] be of a sensitive topic or a pet peeve of mine, or [2] destroy all possibilities of getting to the source of my desired information/etc. That CNN thing is only a freakin' pebble.
     
  3. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

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    I pretty much ignore the advertisements, regardless of how many there are. The only thing about them that's problematic for me is waiting for the !@#$ server to respond to send the data, so that I can see the information I wanted.
     
  4. MrMacMan macrumors 604

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    Nice I never saw that before.


    Ads are annoying but what are you going to do?
    The people need a way to fun their site/tv station/radio station/ect
     
  5. MacFan26 macrumors 65816

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    I second that. It really does cut out most everything, and lets you customize a lot of the settings.
     
  6. Amani macrumors member

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  7. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    Yeah, I've been using Pithhelmet for a while now. Its amazing. The one problem when using it is that sites like Macrumours may rely on adverts for revenue, or simply to keep the site running. So if the images don't load on the screen, does Arn or whoever owns MacRumours get revenue from us through advertising? Good to support sites you like, y'know.

    www.macrumors.com is on my list of sites that's allowed to show adverts, but if the owner(s) get paid anyway, then I'd rather not have the ads. :)
     
  8. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus

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    You avoid most ads by unchecking Enable Plug-ins in Safari Preferences -> Security, i.e. you get rid of the flash based ones, which are the ones taking the most time loading and are most annoying... This combined with enableing Block Pop-Up Windows makes surfing the web much more enjoyable, without installing any 3rd party software...
     
  9. irmongoose macrumors 68030

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    Who cares if its third-party software if it's free?

    PithHelmet. Don't knock it till you try it.



    irmongoose
     
  10. scem0 macrumors 604

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    as long as they aren't popups, and as long as they aren't those flashing ones that usually display something like: "you have won a digital camera". They have been known to cause epileptic (sorry if I spelt that wrong) seizures.

    It is when i don't have control of whether or not to view that ad that it gets out of hand. If I go to freeporn.com in IE I'd get tooooooons of ad's and that would be totally unwarranted (I think, I've never been to freeporn.com - I swear - no, really.... :p ). But if I went to macrumors.com and saw a google ad, then I'm just fine and dandy with that. I might even click it to support arn :).

    Oh another type of ad that annoys the crap out of me are the ones that speak to you. Like the flash ads with that lady who says something along the lines of "hi my name is cindy. I'm going to blah blah blah blah blah..." and she goes on for about 30 minutes. Can't stand it.

    scem0
     
  11. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    Looking at ads is the price of free web content. Seeing ads on TV is the price of free TV. Reading ads in newspapers and magazines is about half the price the newspaper/magazine.

    If Spam somehow paid for my internet connection I wouldn't mind it as much.
     
  12. themadchemist macrumors 68030

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    I'll just point out that television is not free. Of course, it would be orders of magnitude more expensive without ads.

    I complain less about ads than about the quality of ads. Advertising is an art form, a commercial, profiteering art form, but an art form nonetheless. It can be done tastefully, artfully, humorously, and engagingly. Or it can be done horribly, horribly wrong.

    I wouldn't mind ads so much if they were actually good. Great ads can be better than the television programs that they interrupt or the web pages on which they are plastered.

    If we could see more great ads, then I think we would all complain less.

    The question arises, though: Would we simply become accustomed to greatness and make great ads the baseline, therefore perceiving all of these ads as mediocre and complaining once again that television is riddled with poor advertising? Or is the definition of a series of great ads that they can stand out, even amongst great peers, because each ad distinguishes itself in an idiosyncratic and clever manner?

    Something to chew on, I guess.
     
  13. sambo. macrumors regular

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    dude;
    advertising pays for WAAAYYYY more than half a newspaper/magazine in terms of revenue. the general rule is: if you get your print costs back off cover-price sales, you are doing well.

    i'd say advertising id closer to 85-90% of a newspaper/magazines revenue......
    :eek:

    i tend to ignore them myself. :cool: and they pay my wages....... ;)
     
  14. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    TV is free in the US. Throw up an arial and watch all you want. Throw up a K-band dish and get all the basic cable channels free.

    As for great ads being less annoying than not so great ones, greatness can be dulled by repetition especially if novelty is a component of the greatness.

    As for expecting a baseline of greatness and then continuously raising the bar, I postulate the the level of ad greatness that must be achieved is in fact a value which is fixed to quality of the show being watched. If you watching crap shows then crap commercials are okay. When watching the greatest sporting event of the year you need the greatest commercials of the year, or least a nipple. ;)
     
  15. wowser macrumors 6502a

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    What does a third candidate do? I need another pop-up to remind me!
     
  16. LethalWolfe macrumors G3

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    As another poster said over-the-air is free. Just like radio. And cable, which is not free, used to be add free. That was the reason you had to pay a subscription for it, because there was no ad revenue to pay for the content. But as cable grew in popularlity advertisers wanted a piece of that pie so consumers started getting screwed (paying for a subscription and having to wade thru ads. I wouldn't think cable is so much of a rip off currently if it was ad free (or at least significantly ad reduced).


    Lethal
     
  17. Flowbee macrumors 68030

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    Which is why I 'contributed' to Macrumors... helps erase the guilt of PithHelmet.


     
  18. Dale Sorel macrumors 6502a

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    I have a DirecTiVo and don't watch ads on TV. I use a custom style sheet and see very few ads on the internet.
     
  19. 1macker1 macrumors 65816

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    I agree 100%. If you dont' like the ads, don't read them. Hell I dont even mind e-spam, i just delete it, in 2 easy steps. The government should stop AOL and like companies from filling up my real mail box with 'spam'.
     
  20. andrewm macrumors regular

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    Privoxy time

    I have had few adverts in Safari for perhaps a year now with a free, local proxy server called Privoxy. It doesn't block sites so much as intercept them--where you would see an advert you may instead see a square containing the text 'Privoxy blocked this URL' or some such, and can choose to access it all the same if you desire. The same applies to ad servers.

    Configuration is browser-based, and seem perfect in Safari. Although you need to set a proxy server in System Preferences, and ensure that the program appears in the Startup Items folder, it takes only a moment.

    I had no intention of sounding like an advertisement myself when I wrote this, but looking back, well.... but you understand. Consider this your last online advertisement.

    One shortcoming with Privoxy (or any advert-blocking software) is that it cannot catch all adverts; some are not in the Privoxy database, and for some reason more Flash adverts (which are becoming more popular, unfortunately), seem to be creeping through, perhaps for the same reason.

    We are going, I am sure, to see more of the argument that everyone should put up with advertising in order that free sites, such as MacRumors, stay free and in existence, but that's beside the point. It's an inconvenience, and even if the adverts should be allowed to remain in existence, no one should ever be pressured by another person or agency to watch them. Yes, I might some day even advertise for a company of my own, but I'll be confounded if I'll watch one belonging to someone else when I don't have time to spare.

    Cheers!
     
  21. King Cobra macrumors 603

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    All right...for those of you that have been listening to the radio a lot in April/May, there is only one ad that stands out above all the rest as "too much" advertisement: Slim90. They had the damnest way of advertising: Repeat only "[the product name]" and "[the phone number]" and "[the website]" for 20 seconds straight (!!!), then go into what the product is about for a minute while mentioning it in almost every sentence. And that commercial aired for two weeks straight. Then it did two other variations on the radio... Luckily, that seems to be no longer a "price" we pay for free radio. I have never heard a commercial that advertises so "purely" as they have.

    What I'm saying is: Those abundant ads from the CNN pic show that a small minority of sites overdue advertising, and that is also a "price" we pay for free online services.
     

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