Anyone else looking forward to itheater ?

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  1. Macmadant macrumors 6502a

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    well i certainly am, i've been anticipating it's release for some time now, with all the set backs i thought it would never come, i can't wait
    http://www.itheaterproject.com download the PDFs for more info
     
  2. liketom macrumors 601

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    well if it manages to get released i will , in the meantime download mediacentral just for your wait :D
     
  3. Epicurus macrumors 6502

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    It looks very interesting, but I'll reserve any stronger opinions until I have it in hand. I wonder how smooth everything will be, especially in such a new software release.

    From the PDFs, it looks an awful lot like Windows Media Center. I hope that doesn't mean anything.
     
  4. liketom macrumors 601

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  5. Macmadant thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I dont see the need to reinvent the wheel - we have iTunes for the audio. We have quicktime that can play wmv, divx, xvid. looks like a project I could careless about!
     
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  8. liketom macrumors 601

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    so you stoping up to download ?
     
  9. liketom macrumors 601

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    i should think that it will be free while it's still in beta

    o and it's ment to be a mac media center ...Think Microsoft media edition running on a mac :rolleyes: well maybe not :D
     
  10. liketom macrumors 601

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    iTheater is released !

    iTheater is finally here ladies and gents

    http://www.itheaterproject.com/



    iTheater Release Candidate 1 Release // January 31st 2006

    Yes, after a few delay's and development problems we are proud to announce the release of iTheater Release Candidate 1.
    We promised that we would release iTheater Release Candidate 1 on January 31st 2006, whether we were satisfied with the current stage of development or not, and we are sticking to that promise.

    Admittedly, we are not as far along as we had hoped to be due to some problems with the Video and Music features, which we have unfortunatly not been able to fully sort out in time, but these issues will be resolved come the release of Release Candidate 2.

    We are pretty sure some of you will have expected us to be a bit further along but due to the problems mentioned above, it has been unavoidable, so please, no posts about whats missing or unfinished ;)

    Anyway, we won't bore you with pages of details, so download and enjoy! (readme included)

    - The iTheater Team
     
  11. matperk macrumors 6502

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    hmm...so a thread starts about iTheater and the same day it is released.

    sounds a little like a "hype-starter" to me. :confused:
     
  12. Sirus The Virus macrumors 6502a

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    I've been following this for a along time. Can't wait!
     
  13. pdpfilms macrumors 68020

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    ...i haven't
     
  14. Aarow macrumors 6502a

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    I almost forgot about this! Thanks for reminding me, Macmadant!
     
  15. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    OK, downloaded it, played around with it for a while, and... why is this better than the admittedly sucky Front Row?

    I'm not even sure how it will be better when the bugs are worked out - it seems like the same thing to me.

    I'd be happy to give it the benefit of the doubt if someone - anyone - can tell me something - anything - it does better than Front Row (except, of course, for that Weather option, because, well, it's difficult to hit F12 sometimes...).
     
  16. Jovian9 macrumors 68000

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    Have yet to try it. But I may if someone can answer this question:
    -can it read Video_TS files? That is what is lacking from FrontRow and what I'd really like from a media center app.
     
  17. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    It does not read them. Just checked.
     
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  19. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    Truly. It makes Front Row seem good. And it takes massive suckage to do such a thing.
     
  20. theBB macrumors 68020

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    Actually they call it opensource, which should mean they will not charge for it any time in the future. Of course, for it to be "open-source", there should be a source to begin with, but I don't see the option to download the source. Maybe it comes bundled with the binary, but I doubt it. They don't state their terms of licence either, you know, whether it is licenced under GPL or something else.

    BTW, it would be nice if they state why this is supposed to be a better than FrontRow so that I feel compelled to download it. I am not trying hammer on them for the currently missing features, but as to what they eventually see this app to be versus what they think is inadequate in FrontRow.
     
  21. jsw Moderator emeritus

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    The source is there - I got it.

    Not that I want it now... but they do provide a link to the source code.
     
  22. Jovian9 macrumors 68000

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    Then I agree......why use it. I rarely use FrontRow b/c it lacks support for Video_TS files. Though I just checked the MediaCentral page and they claim support for those files....maybe I'll check that one out.
     
  23. Macmadant thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    well, i didn't think it would be that bad, it looked really good on the pdfs they posted but just played around with it and hardly any of it work for me, and the best part of this is they've been working on it for a year:(
     
  24. Macmadant thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    we were promised better than frontrow, i'm not even a programmer but i could have got further in a year than they have
     
  25. mdavey macrumors 6502a

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    iTheater - a mini review

    I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised, especially when I read the bugs list (which made me think "so what does work?").

    This project was really starting to look like vapourware to me. It is curious that they have made such a hash of the release schedule (most open source projects would have just cut whatever they had, called it 0.1alpha and made the original release date).

    Features
    Yes, it is a little ropey around the edges, it suffers some strange behaviour (bugs) and one can't actually use the interface to listen to music or watch DVDs yet (so that only leaves watching movies off the hard disk). Playback seems to be as good as QuickTime on my Mac mini (and subjectively, perhaps better than Front Row).

    Given that even Front Row has a few minor bugs on hardware with which it comes supplied, I think a few minor bugs in the first release of iTheater are excusable. Why the lead developer felt the need to restrict access to the source until now is a valid question, though.

    The interface is quite nice and not too cluttered (some of the early screenshots looked very similar to Microsoft media center, far too much detail). Completely absent from the main menu is a way to view your photo album. There is very little eye candy (much less than Front Row and on par with Media Central).

    The inclusion of a weather screen (looking very similar to a single dashboard widget) is an interesting concept that I really like. I hope that screens for news, sports, iChat, Photobooth, Calendar and Keynote presentations will follow soon.

    iTheater vs the competition
    MediaCentral 1.0 is more feature complete (DVD and music playback work and it even offers a softeware update facility and the ability to control eyeTV receivers), but lacks some of the polish of iTheater (such as navigation sounds).

    There is very little to choose between CenterStage 0.5 and iTheater. Feature completion and bugs are approximately equivilent. CenterStage arguably offers the better eye candy (such as fish-eye main menu with Apple-style relections), but many screens are overly complex with too much in the way of GUI furniture (scroll bars, bounding boxes and the like). However, iTheater is far more responsive and seems to be less resource hungry than CenterStage.

    FrontRow continues to set the standard for Mac, but could benefit from some of the ideas presented in the three OpenSource alternatives (as well as elsewhere).

    Futures & Conclusion
    iTheater is worth checking out and keeping an eye on - it shows some promise after a very rocky start. I particularly like the weather screen, but iTheater is missing a lot of critical functionality that prevents me from recommending it as an alternative to FrontRow. More than anything, I would really encourage at least two of the three teams (MediaCentral, iTheater and CenterStage) to merge their efforts. If one of the teams can get Jonathan del Strother (of CoverFlow fame) on-board, so much the better.
     

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