Apple and Other Smartphone Makers Back Global Anti-Theft Measures

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple, Google, HTC, Huawei, Motorola, Microsoft, Nokia and Samsung have announced a voluntary agreement to include anti-theft technology on all smartphones beginning next year, according to a report by Re/code.

    The pledge has device makers agreeing that all devices going on sale after July of 2015 will have capabilities to remotely wipe data and to prevent the device from being reactivated without the owner's permission.

    The senator pointed out that all smartphones must have similar kill switch features, or violent street crime and thefts will continue to occur as at least some of the device thefts will still be profitable.

    A federal bill introduced earlier this year would mandate the inclusion of such a smartphone "kill switch" after California introduced a similar bill.

    It is likely that Apple's Activation Lock, introduced alongside iOS 7, satisfies the requirements of the agreement already. Activation Lock effectively disables a stolen smartphone by preventing it from being wiped and reactivated without an Apple ID and password. Apple's Find My iPhone also allows for devices to be remotely wiped and locked.

    Article Link: Apple and Other Smartphone Makers Back Global Anti-Theft Measures
  2. macrumors 6502

    Jul 22, 2011
    It's remarkable to see how cheap "icloud locked" iphone's are on eBay. It doesn't seem to stop thieves, just puts a dent in their profits.

    I like that they're collaborating to put fourth an effort though!
  3. macrumors 6502

    Dec 28, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
  4. macrumors member

    Apr 15, 2014
    Google's "Anti-theft" measures will be easily disabled by side-loading an APK - as always. Wait and see - if they can't stop piracy, how are these blithering dunderheads going to "fix" security of this importance?

    I trust Google for security, like a bicycle made of jelly

  5. macrumors 65816


    Sep 15, 2009
    Hermitage, TN
    So I can sell my iPhone and then screw over whom I sold it to?

    You know this will happen.
  6. macrumors regular

    Sep 27, 2006
    It's also a way to pad the pockets of the manufactures.
  7. macrumors newbie

    Mar 31, 2014
    I'm actually surprised hackers haven't found a bypass around it. iOS 7 has been out for a while now and there hasn't been any sign of the activation lock being cracked.

    Note: I'm not supporting the hackers, I think the anti-theft lock is fantastic
  8. macrumors 601


    Jun 26, 2009
    long island NY
    it's tied to apple's sever so unless you hack apple it isn't happening.
  9. macrumors 6502

    Mar 12, 2007
    True. They can still sell them for parts. Not quite as lucrative as a fully functioning phone but parts are still a big market.
  10. macrumors 603

    Jun 19, 2009
    they will probably just have locked bootloaders on all new phones so no more CM and other unofficial releases
  11. macrumors newbie

    Mar 31, 2014
    Explains why it can't be cracked then, thank you!:D
  12. macrumors 68000


    Jul 27, 2003
    But you could hack the firmware on the phone and prevent it from doing the check. Of course, this hasn't been done, but you don't necessarily need to hack into Apple's servers.
  13. macrumors regular

    Sep 27, 2006
    The whitelisted phones were also on the Apple servers. Some people found a way around the carrier lock.
  14. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 18, 2008
    Not as long as the buyer is wise. Bottom line is a buyer of a used cell phone would simply need to make sure that the iTunes/Google/etc. account is changed to their account prior to the seller leaving.
  15. macrumors 6502

    Sep 2, 2012
    This is great as other phones which are stolen can't be mine for data like my old phone I lost! :/
  16. macrumors regular

    Mar 23, 2014
    Good for them.

    How much did the 5S stop theft with Touch ID? Or was that just for convenience?
  17. macrumors 68020


    Oct 21, 2013
    locking your phone with your fingerprint doesn't prevent someone from taking it.
  18. macrumors 603


    Oct 21, 2008
    Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
    Voluntary my ass! I remember not too long ago reading or hearing how the UK and EU governments were requesting handset makers buck up their security because too many phones are getting stolen.
    This is their response, they'll sell it as voluntary, but in reality they were most likely told to sort it out or else.

    Still, it is a very good thing for the consumer.
  19. macrumors 68030


    Feb 25, 2014
    New Zealand
    Do you even know anything about the boot loader?
  20. macrumors 6502

    Mar 12, 2007
    It wasn't Touch ID in the 5s that was meant to deter theft. It was iOS7 and its Activation Lock feature that is enabled when you enable Find My iPhone on the device.
  21. Solver, Apr 15, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2014

    macrumors 6502

    Jan 6, 2004
    San Jose
    Waiting for some politician to “request” the medical body part replacement industry to voluntary install a kill switch.
  22. macrumors newbie

    Jan 10, 2012
    What about Find my Mac?

    These are good news for me too (I have an iPhone, and these features may be useful someday, I hope not)... BUT I think laptop Anti-Theft mesures are as important as phones.

    My 13'' Mid-2012 MacBook Pro was stolen a few days ago... and iCloud (Find My Mac) has been useless so far. Somehow the thief managed to not get my MB locked or wiped as of today (it was stolen on April 11th).

    The Location Services (GPS) should not depend on the state of the device, wether it is powered on or off, it should always be able to be tracked. Also, the Find My Mac feature should not be able to be turned off... if you do a clean OS install, and never connect the mac to internet, you just need to be careful to turn off Find My Mac before connecting it, and it will never get locked or found by iCloud.

    There should be a way to make the device a brick, not only wipe it or lock it.

    Many people are working on a way to violate all the Anti-Theft security implemented by Apple, and be sure someone will accomplish it soon, if they have not done it already.
  23. macrumors 68000

    Mar 5, 2012
    Central California
    More of a gimmick
  24. macrumors regular

    Mar 19, 2012
    People still believe electronic devices are secure....laughable
  25. macrumors member


    Feb 18, 2003
    The lawsuit comes next....

    Next we'll see a lawsuit from Apple against Google, HTC, Huawei, Motorola, Microsoft, Nokia and Samsung for violating their Activation Lock patents....

    :D :D

    (And yes, I am joking: I actually have no idea if Activation Lock is patented/patentable.)

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