Apple at Siggraph 2004

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001
    According to one reader, Apple will have a "huge" presence at Siggraph this year.

    Siggraph 2004 is "the 31st international conference on computer graphics and interactive techniques". The conference takes place between August 8-12, 2004 in the Los Angeles Conference Center in Los Angeles, California.

    Last year, while Apple had a "strong presence" at Siggraph 2003, they did not hold an official booth... This year Apple is reported to have one of the largest presences of any vendor in the show.
  2. macrumors 601


    Aug 19, 2003
    Manila - Nottingham - Philadelphia - Santa Barbar
    unleash the graphic power of the g5 upon the world and see other platforms tremble
  3. macrumors 6502

    Jul 17, 2002
    A cardboard box.
    Hmm, i remember reading one anylyst's views on how Apple might acquire Pixar now that they dumped disney, and since both are obviously owned by Jobs. I find this hard to believe, but if it were to happen this is probably where. I can also only hope that Pixar makes a new short :D
  4. macrumors 65816


    Jan 31, 2002
    Smells like a huge Pixar presentation of Renderman on a G5... corresponding with new G5s? Would be the right moment to reveal them..
  5. macrumors regular

    Oct 21, 2003
  6. macrumors 68040


    Dec 29, 2001
    Interesting, I'm pretty much certain they'd be showing off the new Xserve G5s and some sort of a render farm demo type thing. I don't think Apple really need any more exposure in the graphics department ;)
  7. macrumors 68030


    May 7, 2002
    2 Much Infinite Loops
    i do not think SJ OWNS pixar and apple.

    he is the CEO, but not the owner.
  8. macrumors newbie

    Feb 6, 2004
    Been to Siggraph in 2003

    Apple did NOT have a huge presence...just a booth sponsored by some professional trainers teaching Shake. It looked and felt like a corporate training session but they didn't let people just walkup and touch the machines.

    Shake was terriffic but I think in the light of letting users ask pro-level questions...the booth was not that impressive.
  9. arn
    macrumors god


    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    Actually... Steve Jobs was the owner at one point I believe... he bought the company from Lucas.

    Since then, it's now a publically traded company... so no one person "owns it"... but Jobs may still have a significant share of it.

  10. macrumors newbie

    Nov 17, 2003
    York, UK
    Hmm, yes, shake isn't that impressive... It was only used to composite LotR: RotK, that's not a big professional production requiring a lot of compositing special effects.</sarcasm>

  11. Sol
    macrumors 68000


    Jan 14, 2003
    X Grid & Pixlet to be shown off?

    In Siggraph Apple can show off its latest technologies, including the G5 XServes, X Raid, Pixlet, Shake and X Grid. If XGrid can be used by non-Apple applications like Maya and Renderman then 3D artists would have another good reason to go Mac.

    It would be great if Apple announced that high-end 3D cards will be compatible with G5 PowerMacs. For some reason this has not happened yet.
  12. macrumors 6502

    Jul 17, 2002
  13. macrumors 6502a


    Apr 13, 2003
    Gorgeous, WA
    This wouldn't be a MacRumors article without at least one negative rating. What gives?

    Renderman seems the most likely.
  14. macrumors member

    Oct 22, 2001
    Afaik Steve still holds 55% of Pixar.
  15. macrumors newbie

    Sep 9, 2002
    Washington, DC
    Hate to do this to you, but you need to learn to diagram sentences. IronChef meant that the presentation wasn't that impressive, what with the inability to actually get on machines to use the software. Perhaps the employees doing the Shake demo weren't terribly knowledgeable at the time? Remember, IronChef points out that "Shake is terrific" right at the beginning of the sentence you criticize. No need for <sarcasm> if you're not going to read closely.

  16. macrumors 65816

    Oct 24, 2003
    Jobs owns 55% of Pixar and rest is owned by individual share holders.

    Fox News did special on Disney and which Roy Disney said ME was making a big mistake and is killing the company.
  17. Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    Sounds great, G5s (rev C by August might be a bit much to ask for), XGrid, speed bumped XServes - now I'll bet lots of people would love to see Maya Unlimited ported to the Mac - that would make some serious tremors in the 3D App market....:D

    I'd love to go, but I don't think it will happen.

  18. macrumors 6502

    Jul 6, 2003
    And his ownership of Apple continues to grow. I believe it is over 6% now. That is no loose change by any means. A purchase of Pixar's Renderman in exchange for Apple stock, would give Steve a larger share of Apple. I can see the day when Pixar's software development arm goes over to Apple and Apple acquires other software, such as Maya. It makes sense to me.
  19. Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    There was a rumor about Apple buying Maya - Alias/Wavefront last year - caused a huge stir, actually. Enough of one that the President of Alias/Wavefront definitively said in an interview that it wasn't going to happen. Given that, and the fact the Renderman is now available for purchase, we might see a Apple 3D app based on Renderman before Apple buys up Maya.

    It would make more sense, but a huge effort in development, since Renderman isn't a simple system. And they'd need a modeler as well.

  20. macrumors 68020


    Jan 7, 2002
    On the contrary I think that the mac platform lost a good deal of graphic professionnal users in the Moto-Dark-Ages. Ans since all the major apps are available on both platforms, Apple has to make a point that there is an advantage in using a "more expensive' mac for your graphic needs.

    I think you may be right on the render farm though.
  21. macrumors regular

    Apr 3, 2003
    It's 56% to be precise :) [according to Page 32 of Pixar's 2003 financial report - ]

    "Our Chief Executive Officer, Steve Jobs, beneficially owns approximately 56% of our outstanding Common Stock as of March 4, 2003. As a result, Mr. Jobs, acting alone, is able to exercise sole discretion over all matters requiring shareholder approval, including the election of the entire board of directors and approval of significant corporate transactions, including an acquisition of Pixar. Such concentration of ownership may also have the effect of delaying or preventing a change in control of Pixar, impeding a merger, consolidation, takeover or other business combination involving Pixar, or discouraging a potential acquirer from making a tender offer or otherwise attempting to obtain control of Pixar."

    Ha! by the look of things SJ is not going to let the Apple past fiasco happen again! He has TOTAL control...
  22. macrumors 6502a

    Oct 23, 2002
    I have a feelin that the G5 won't reach Rev B until then. This would mean we'll have the dual 2GHz as the top of the line for almost a year, and then make a huge leap into 3GHz range. :confused:

    It would be awesome if Renderman showed up for the Mac. They've already said in the G5 promo video that they felt the G5 was the most powerful computer out there. Let''s seee them take advantage of that.;)
  23. Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    The Rev B. G5 won't wait until August - a whole year before we see a speed bump? That would just be deadly and stupid - harkening back to the days of Motorola supplied chips.

    Not to mention the mass hysteria/angnst that would precede the wait. Apple would be getting some serious flak for putting off the upgrade that long.

  24. macrumors member

    Dec 31, 2003
    West Virginia
    Best guess is around march, first week or last week. Believe or Mac OS rumors posted something on this I actually agree with. They claim Apple is holding back release of the Rev. B's becuase they are stuffing a lot of those 970fx's into the Xserves meant for the Virginia Tech upgarde, which unlike last time where they pissed some poeple off. they know whats coming and can take care of Virginia Tech without impact to other customers. Last I heard there are 1,600 Xserves going in there. So that's 3200 CPUs used JUST for 1 customer.

    It's rare that macosorumors makes sense, but that does make sense to me.
  25. macrumors regular


    Mar 17, 2003
    Mmmmmm interesting

    I hope Apple announces that they bought Luxology and Alias. Modo as a modeler and maya for animation, rigging and particle system and put it all in a package with a cut down version of renderman for a nice tidy sum of $2000.

    Apple could have held off with the release of the new G5 because of an announcment by the Hypertransport consortium to move over to version 2 with faster speeds and the ability to support PCI Express

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