Apple caught cheating on RSS standard

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  1. macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003


    Category: News and Press Releases
    Link: Apple caught cheating on RSS standard
    Description:: The Photocasting feature in Apple's updated iPhoto application violates numerous internet standards, according to several dignitaries from the RSS community.

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  2. Moderator emeritus


    Aug 16, 2005
    I was a bit surprised and disappointed when I first read about this. I'm hoping Apple just made a big oops and will correct the issue soon.
  3. macrumors 68000


    Jun 24, 2004
    San Diego, CA
    Correct what issue? Even the article admits Apple is doing nothing wrong - that indeed there is no RSS official standards.

    "Strictly speaking Apple is not doing anything wrong. RSS is not an official standard governed by a standards body, and anybody can make changes and introduce new elements and extensions."

    Seems the author has something against Apple - he praises Microsoft for doing the same thing, but somehow when Apple does it its "Against the Standards" that do not even exist.
  4. macrumors 6502a


    Apr 1, 2005
    Lincoln, NE
    Give them a break. It's only a 1.0 release. I'm sure Apple doesn't intend to try to change RSS, they probably just misimplemented it and will fix this in an update. And besides, RSS isn't even a standard.
  5. macrumors 601


    Jul 5, 2004
    Just because there's no governing bodies for it doesn't mean there's no standards.

    I'm also with the "it's only v1.0" crowd, seeing how iWeb makes XHTML/CSS compliant websites (a much harder job than RSS).
  6. macrumors newbie

    Jan 20, 2006
    Gotta love when "community" in the media or net is really just one or two people speaking for all.
  7. macrumors 65816


    Oct 28, 2003
    I really don't get Dave Winer. He creates RSS, doesn't monetize it, then gets mad when corporations try to. Is he an idiot?

    He's the anti Tim Berners-Lee.:p
  8. macrumors regular

    Jul 20, 2005
  9. macrumors 68030

    Analog Kid

    Mar 4, 2003
    And Apple admits that there is a standard:
    "We use industry standard RSS so that anyone can subscribe. You do not even need a Mac,"

    I don't see anything anti-Apple in the article... MS extended what RSS can do, Apple changed how existing things are done. There's a big difference.

    Besides, I think this is a long way from "praising" MS:
    "But while Microsoft's efforts have generally been received as a welcome addition to RSS, Apple is introducing new elements that aim only to replace existing ones."
  10. macrumors 68030

    Analog Kid

    Mar 4, 2003
    People who like things to work... ;)
  11. macrumors 68000

    Jun 13, 2004
    MS Internet Explorer has also add in quite a number of non-standard HTML elements. What Apple is doing now sounds mysteriously like what MS has done before.
  12. macrumors member

    Sep 5, 2003
    Yeah, some people here would watch steve jobs kill there mother and then defend him.
  13. macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    It's not immediately clear to me: what does Apple gain here? Does this make the photo function work better in some way? If not, what hidden benefit does Apple stand to gain from this?

    That would be the clue to whether this is some evil master plan, or just something Apple didn't make a priority--and which some people wish Apple had. (I'm all for supporting standards, wherever they came from.)

    "early tests showed that the feature fails to work with some feed readers because it deviates from common RSS practices."

    If "common practices" means documented standards, then this sounds like something Apple would choose to fix in a future update.

    I take it, then, that this RSS thing, whether an intentional attack on standards or merely thoughtless, is an extremely damaging thing?

    Is there any way back from the destruction Apple has caused here, or is it too late? Should we be furious, or merely concerned here? Is there reason to think Apple is "trying to kill RSS" as the the creator of RSS fears? And if not, is damage that has been done to RSS in the world reversible? Is there any way to give control back to David Winer and others who will better guard this standard?

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