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Apple Event: Rackmounts?
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Re: Webcast?
CNET usually show excerpts of these events, even if they are not webcast by Apple. I'm sure this was the case with the iPod launch, and certainly with last weeks WWDC keynote.
CNET usually show excerpts of these events, even if they are not webcast by Apple. I'm sure this was the case with the iPod launch, and certainly with last weeks WWDC keynote.
No hype, just servers
I think this event will probably be exactly what Apple says it is - the unveiling of new server hardware. I think it's very easy to go on for a few hours about server hardware, especially if you give the journalists some hands-on time, plus Q&A, etc. Anybody who's saying "it'd better be more" is just manufacturing unreasonable expectations out of thin air - Apple hasn't promised anything big, all they've done is invite the press to the event. Hell, even the invitation wording is understated - "Please join us for the unveiling of our new server," it says. How much more subdued than that can you get? This is definitely NOT hype on the level of MWSF or most other Apple events, since they know that server hardware appeals to a very small number of people.
I think this event will probably be exactly what Apple says it is - the unveiling of new server hardware. I think it's very easy to go on for a few hours about server hardware, especially if you give the journalists some hands-on time, plus Q&A, etc. Anybody who's saying "it'd better be more" is just manufacturing unreasonable expectations out of thin air - Apple hasn't promised anything big, all they've done is invite the press to the event. Hell, even the invitation wording is understated - "Please join us for the unveiling of our new server," it says. How much more subdued than that can you get? This is definitely NOT hype on the level of MWSF or most other Apple events, since they know that server hardware appeals to a very small number of people.
Someone sent this on to me. It could be an early shot of the new racks slated for release tomorrow. Only time will tell.
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blakespot
blakespot
Originally posted by blakespot
Someone sent this on to me. It could be an early shot of the new racks slated for release tomorrow. Only time will tell.
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blakespot
now THAT looks like it could contain both G4 and G5 chips.....
less than 9 hours till....SHOWTIME. ( jazzhands for emphasis)
Originally posted by blakespot
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So the rack sports a 2" floppy drive and DAT?
Excellent! Who needs DVD-RW anyway?
Hmm, a 6 processor G4 / G5 sounds pretty good to me - and worthy of a 3 hour presentation.
http://www.architosh.com/news/2002-05/2002c1-0513-server-1.phtml
http://www.architosh.com/news/2002-05/2002c1-0513-server-1.phtml
So... When is it, then?
The Bender wonders what PST is in GMT, so he can hang round the Mac sites and get a glimpse of the new baby at the earliest possible moment.
Uh, so it's -8... Dang, That means I don't get to see it until 8 pm, while Californians have already seen it at 9 am! No fair!
Or something.
The Bender wonders what PST is in GMT, so he can hang round the Mac sites and get a glimpse of the new baby at the earliest possible moment.
Uh, so it's -8... Dang, That means I don't get to see it until 8 pm, while Californians have already seen it at 9 am! No fair!
Or something.
Take a look at this article
http://www.architosh.com/news/2002-05/2002c1-0513-server-1.phtml
What do you think?
http://www.architosh.com/news/2002-05/2002c1-0513-server-1.phtml
What do you think?
But with the MPC8540 Motorola with e500 core RapidIO and OCeaN wowww
http://www.embedded.com/db_area/motorola2002/03moto05.html
http://www.embedded.com/db_area/motorola2002/03moto05.html
Cmon folks. Go look at the AppleStore specs for their servers right now. Their servers top out at dual gig G4's. I really don't think that Steve and Co. will call the press and simply go: "Hey dudes check this out, we've got this nifty new case for what we've been offering up till now. We're gonna raise the price too!! Yeah, uh, nothing new inside, same crap, but LOOK at this CASE man!"
It's gonna contain at least a new motherboard, so I'm sure they aren't so stupid as to:
1. not include some form of new RAM
2. not include some form of better hard drive functionality
If they just squashed everthing into a rectangle resembling the front of a Mac Truck with screws on the ends, people would laugh their asses off at Apple. Somethin a bit interesting will be in those boxes that will be a better technology than what is in the top of the line Pro boxes now.
And that's OK with me
Oh and you guys have good senses of humor, I like those mock-up pics!!!
It's gonna contain at least a new motherboard, so I'm sure they aren't so stupid as to:
1. not include some form of new RAM
2. not include some form of better hard drive functionality
If they just squashed everthing into a rectangle resembling the front of a Mac Truck with screws on the ends, people would laugh their asses off at Apple. Somethin a bit interesting will be in those boxes that will be a better technology than what is in the top of the line Pro boxes now.
And that's OK with me
Oh and you guys have good senses of humor, I like those mock-up pics!!!
Originally posted by emdezet
So the rack sports a 2" floppy drive and DAT?
Excellent! Who needs DVD-RW anyway?
I think it will include a built in audio cassette tape drive for backing up your files (just like my old Ti 99/4A)
That would be interesting. Dell actually sells racks, and they are pretty sweet. It is an enclosed cabinet, and you can remove all four sides, and lock them (server security is very important to some people). They sell a 1RU keyboard, trackball, Flat screen thingy that you can pull out, plus you can buy a KVM switch (keyboard, video, mouse) that will allow you to control 16 servers with that pull out console. It also allows you to mount the KVM switch and a 1 RU Ethernet Switch vertically, so they don't take up any room in your rack.
Apple needs to find some company that is willing to slap on Apple's logo onto their rack. Well they don't need to, but it would be cool
lt would be great to see a business user line
I hope that all these side rumors of iBook updates coinciding with the server announcement could be a redesigned iBook for "enterprise" solutions where the bBook connects wirelessly or via gigabit to the new server. It would be a natural progression to add a server/laptop for office/enterprise users. This would make 3 very clear markets.
I hope that all these side rumors of iBook updates coinciding with the server announcement could be a redesigned iBook for "enterprise" solutions where the bBook connects wirelessly or via gigabit to the new server. It would be a natural progression to add a server/laptop for office/enterprise users. This would make 3 very clear markets.
Re: lt would be great to see a business user line
I agree that the ideal machine for the Enterprise is some type of laptop. The Tibook is a bit much to replace $1000 windows machines. I don't think that they should put gigabit ethernet in any other laptop right now. It is a selling point for the TiBook, and honestly, most people don't need gigabit ethernet (I am connected via gig to a large enterprise network with lots of gig in the core, and it doesn't make checking mail or surfing the web any faster -- oh yeah, we have a gig ethernet connection to our network service provider
The 14" iBook is pretty welll situated for business users. It is fairly light, rugged, decent screen size. The next rev of it should be even more attractive. What will be key is Jaguar, where they say that they will have MS Exchange support and Dave like functions built in to the OS. Then they will have more to offer businesses who already have a large windows base.
Yeah, for the servers to take off, they do need to push on both sides of the client/server equation.
I agree that the ideal machine for the Enterprise is some type of laptop. The Tibook is a bit much to replace $1000 windows machines. I don't think that they should put gigabit ethernet in any other laptop right now. It is a selling point for the TiBook, and honestly, most people don't need gigabit ethernet (I am connected via gig to a large enterprise network with lots of gig in the core, and it doesn't make checking mail or surfing the web any faster -- oh yeah, we have a gig ethernet connection to our network service provider
The 14" iBook is pretty welll situated for business users. It is fairly light, rugged, decent screen size. The next rev of it should be even more attractive. What will be key is Jaguar, where they say that they will have MS Exchange support and Dave like functions built in to the OS. Then they will have more to offer businesses who already have a large windows base.
Yeah, for the servers to take off, they do need to push on both sides of the client/server equation.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't apple's servers already faster than most peecee servers? Do we really need a whole new server just for the rackmount feature?
Apple would certainally want you to think that, but the fact is that a nice IBM or Dell server that you could buy for the same price as the Mac servers (not rack mount), if you put Linux or BSD on it would be way faster at httpd than a Mac server.
For someone that does not use servers, rack-mounting might not seem like a big deal, just stick the thing on a shelf, but when you have hundreds of servers (or some places have thousands), than rack mounting allows for much more efficient space usage.
I hadn't even thought of the one market that Apple could really step into with their new servers...
The Ultimate Web Server Farm Machine!
For a company that either hosts other servers, or needs alot of servers of their own, the Apple Rack could be a great thing. Here you have a well supported OS. Add some good same day/next day onsite hardware support options, and they could really sell the thing. I am not sure if they do it already, but they would need to have multihoming on the same NIC, and allow Apache to run separate sites off of each IP. That way someone could host multiple sites on one mac.
I haven't played with server since version 1.0 of the OSX server, can you do that with the new software?
I think those are actually cube (holographic memory) bays.Originally posted by emdezet
So the rack sports a 2" floppy drive and DAT?
Excellent! Who needs DVD-RW anyway?
blakespot
Time zone calculator
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http://www.web-search.com/timezone.html
Next time, try using the internet - it's fun, educational and tasty too!
A few people, on more than just this thread, keep asking, "When is xx:xx time in my country/state/province".
A simple google search for "time zone calculator" turned this up as the first response:
http://www.web-search.com/timezone.html
Next time, try using the internet - it's fun, educational and tasty too!