Apple Files New German Lawsuit Targeting Ten Samsung Smartphones

Discussion in 'iOS Blog Discussion' started by MacRumors, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. macrumors bot

    MacRumors

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2001
    #1
    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]


    Bloomberg reports that Apple has filed a new lawsuit in Germany against Samsung, seeking to ban sales of ten different smartphone models over alleged design infringement.
    Germany has already been the site of a significant amount of legal action between Apple and Samsung, with Apple winning an injunction barring the sale of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 in that country. Samsung has apparently circumvented that injunction with the release of a design-tweaked Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the German market, although Apple continues to press forward with its legal efforts against Samsung's tablets.

    Article Link: Apple Files New German Lawsuit Targeting Ten Samsung Smartphones
     
  2. macrumors 6502a

    Xenc

    Joined:
    May 8, 2010
    Location:
    London, England
    #2
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A405 Safari/7534.48.3)

    Another day, another lawsuit.
     
  3. macrumors G4

    *LTD*

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Location:
    Canada
    #3
    Apple is pretty committed. Nice to see them keeping up the pressure and consistently following through on their claims.
     
  4. macrumors G3

    roadbloc

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2009
    Location:
    UK
    #4
    Yawn. This got a boring a long time ago. Apple needs to stop flogging the dead horse. No-one cares and these lawsuits result in nothing.
     
  5. macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Location:
    UK
    #5
    Following through on their claims? Might help if they could actually win more than they lose/are thrown out. Not sure what the point is either, isn't this the same court that last time round couldn't actually manage to stop sales in Germany even though they wanted to?
     
  6. macrumors G4

    *LTD*

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Location:
    Canada
    #6
    Apple might very well win an injunction again. It costs Apple very little to keep this going, both in terms of resources and in terms of consumer mindshare. It's in their best interests to keep subjecting Samsung's IP and their design decisions to legal tests.

    We already know the way Samsung plays the game. They're rip-off artists par excellence. It would be silly to let them get away with it.
     
  7. macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2006
    #7
    And the patent troll known as Apple files another one.
    This crossed being about protecting ip a long time ago. Proof of this is in the fact they are doing this now. Just targeting these phones now like when some of them have been for sell for almost a year now.
    Apple is running scared and now trying to play dirty.
     
  8. macrumors 68040

    Dr McKay

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2010
    Location:
    Kirkland
    #8
    And yet if this was Samsung suing Apple, you'd be spouting your usual "Those who can't innovate, litigate".
     
  9. macrumors 68000

    maril1111

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2010
    Location:
    Denmark
    #9
    why another one.... hmmm maybe they were bored in the office.
     
  10. macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Location:
    UK
    #10
    But the injunction last time meant nothing, Samsung got round it by supplying from non-German sources as the court only had authority to issue an injunction against Samsung Germany.

    So what, exactly, is the point of this? It doesn't ultimately stop any sales. Samsung just get on with their business and Apple look like more and more like a litigation company. I can see in 20 years time Apple being a law firm rather than a tech firm:rolleyes:
     
  11. macrumors G4

    *LTD*

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Location:
    Canada
    #11
    You can't easily litigate against the same entity you are shamelessly ripping off.

    This is why Samsung has consistently been on the defensive, while what few of their attacks against Apple have been half-hearted at best.

    They even admitted their guilt:

     
  12. macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Location:
    UK
    #12
    The only reason Samsung has been on the offensive is because Apple keep chasing them, usually on very spurious claims. How many of Apple's claims have actually been proven? Very few. As they say, throw enough **** and some of it will stick. And Apple certainly seem to enjoy throwing lots of **** around.
     
  13. macrumors G5

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    #13
    You have it completely wrong and are stuck in your reality distortion field.

    A) they haven't admitted they've copied Apple. Nothing in that cut/paste job you did even suggests that.

    B) IP and patents are so vast and complicated that it is EXTREMELY easy to overlap or unknowingly use or create something that has already been patented. Especially since language to too vague.

    C) Even if they WERE aware - they might have every intention of challenging patents for being too vague and/or what they seem as not worthy of being patented

    D) They haven't admitted to guilt for what YOU think they've admitted to. You seem to think they are admitting that they copy Apple. No - they've admitted nothing of the sort. They've admitted that there have been instances where their products have seemingly used technology that has been patented and that they take THOSE items seriously.

    How is this bad? How is a company taking patent offenses seriously a bad thing? Would you prefer they issue statements stating they don't give a crap and Apple can kiss their butts?
     
  14. macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2003
    #14
    No one really has to care except the parties involved... You might just as easily complain to MacRumors for reporting it.
     
  15. macrumors G4

    *LTD*

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Location:
    Canada
    #15
    The parties involved certainly care. There are billions of dollars at stake here.

    Motorola for instance, in similar litigation, certainly cared:



    ----------

    You can accuse Apple of "playing dirty", but you can't accuse them of being a "patent troll", since they don't actually fit the definition.

    This has already been covered several times, in responses to you especially.


     
  16. macrumors G5

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    #16
    LOL - you could easily apply that to anyone YOU call a patent troll.
     
  17. macrumors G4

    *LTD*

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Location:
    Canada
    #17
    Such as? Samsung isn't a "patent troll" (at least not in this case), either. Folks like Lodsys, Sisvel, Compal, and Mosaid *are* patent trolls.
     
  18. macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    #18
    Apple goes thermonuclear against Samsung

    http://www.neowin.net/news/apple-files-new-german-lawsuit-against-samsung

    :eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Boy, Apple really has the entire electronics industry over a barrel. Between unprecedented demand for iOS devices and their patent portfolio, Apple is ready to deal the death blow in 2012-2013.
     
  19. macrumors 68040

    boss.king

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    #19
    They have no one over a barrel. They're like the spoiled rich kid who tries to get everyone else in trouble with the teacher. Seriously, when's the last time they won one of these cases? Last I checked all their wins were later overturned. It's important to protect your IP, but what apple is doing is embarrassing.
     
  20. macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2006
    #20
    minus the fact that Apple has had more than one judge call them on the BS and said that this is not about protecting IP but more about the fact that it is real competition that they are scared of.

    Apple stop innovating and has gone to litigating.
     
  21. macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2007
    #21
    Actually these lawsuits result in pretty much.

    The number of people fed up with Apple grows every day - including me.

    I will buy a Mac OS X laptop that is worth the money (i.e. also offers a Blu-Ray option) as soon as it is ready - but I will never ever buy an iOS device again.

    Actually I toyed around with a Nokia Lumia 800 recently. Looked really nice. Either that or the soon to be announced Galaxy S3.
     
  22. macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    #22
    If you are an Apple investor, you should demand nothing less then zealous litigation in protection of your IP.
     
  23. macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2006
    #23
    no you should be demanding they start receiving licencing fees from it. Right now all that happens is Apple loses money on court cost and not gaining money.

    Apple is not maximizing the amount of money it can get off its IP. Instead what Apple is doing is hurting its public image and looking more and more like a patent troll.
     
  24. macrumors 68040

    boss.king

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    #24
    I remember reading that Apple investors actually felt that Apples scorched-earth policy wasn't in their best interest. Instead, Apple should try licensing the IP it owns for a profit. I can't seem to find the article but I believe it was on the front page here at MR at some point.
     
  25. macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    #25
    I would appreciate seeing even one article where a sizable number of Apple investors do not approve of the scorched earth policy.
     

Share This Page