WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's amazing.
Is that counting the ones that don't get through?!
And they have a working business model, in selling hardware with free services.
Take that WhatsApp!
So, Whatsapp is an amazing company worth $19 billion. But Apple is toast and surely going to lose money, and a terrible stock to own... even though it sends as many messages per day as Whatsapp? See why it makes sense for Apple to buy back its own shares instead of acquiring a company like this? They can already do everything whatsapp does, and much more. If Wall St. ever pulls their heads out of their collective butts, we should see Apple trading at over $1000...
Seriously? Why that attitude towards WhatsApp. Did one of the founders there hurt a family member?
Sam,I saw this yesterday posted by 1stNTenderbit (do I even want to know how that name was derived?)
"...I'm not sure if you know how it's supposed to be done, but this ain't it. 1st, you have to go "all in". Google, Samsung, Microsoft, heck any company without this , yeah they're all bad. You have to be totally with us or you're totally against us. There is no room for personal use case. Evil incarnate= all others. 2nd, logic and common sense are not allowed. Your comments must contain: gratuitous hyperbole, completely unrelated deflection, useless anecdotal "facts", or a horrible car analogy using Ferrari, Mercedes, or BMW. Personally I'd prefer you use a combination, but that's just me. 3rd, realize if Apple and another company are doing the exact same thing, Apple's motives are altruistic, the other company is greedy."
His(?) post was sarcasm, but I think it's apropos to the logic behind the comments above yours.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's amazing
You forgot one
And they have a working business model, in selling hardware with free services.
Take that WhatsApp!
Nothing. Just the ordinary betrayal of offering something for free and than selling your personal data for targeted ad-bombardments. It's no different from what Google and Facebook do and I hate all of those shady businesses. They are the worst and the Internet would be better off without them. To all those who keep preaching me the benefits of cross-platform and openness, I say: „I like my doors closed.“Seriously? Why that attitude towards WhatsApp. Did one of the founders there hurt a family member?
Exactly, I paid for it. Not someone else who than owns access to my data.Sorry to burst your bubble but the money Apple gets from their sales goes into funding these services and updates. So the service is not really "free", you already paid for it.
Well the latest update to this story sure steels its thunder.
Nothing. Just the ordinary betrayal of offering something for free and than selling your personal data for targeted ad-bombardments. It's no different from what Google and Facebook do and I hate all of those shady businesses. They are the worst and the Internet would be better off without them. To all those who keep preaching me the benefits of cross-platform and openness, I say: I like my doors closed.
I couldn't care less, if iMessage or WhatsApp is the bigger service. My tolerance level for ad-based businesses is zero. I happily loose a couple of million possible contacts, if all the ads go away with them.
Me likes how FaceTime and iMessage are financed by hardware sales, the way.
Exactly, I paid for it. Not someone else who than owns access to my data.
putting the video service on par with other apps like Skype.
That's why I said, it has no working business model, yet. Either WhatsApp starts to sell ads or bundles its free service with some other paid service or it stays a company without earnings until bankruptcy.Except WhatsApp isn't ad based at all - and that seems to be one of the conditions of the sale that it remains so...
I guess it shows just how many people live inside Apple's little walled garden!
How do we not have FaceTime FaceMail yet? (This would be video Voice Mail)
If we did, I'd stop calling (via the phone network) my FaceTime friends with the phone, I'd just use FaceTime.
Gary
Are we conveniently forgetting that WhatsApp charges for service?That's why I said, it has no working business model, yet. Either WhatsApp starts to sell ads or bundles its free service with some other paid service or it stays a company without earnings until bankruptcy.
Facebook itself started without ads, but you can't remain a company without earnings for long, eventually you have to change into something I won't like. Apple's free services are platform specific and don't ever need to change.
The downsides of using iMessage are well known, the downsides of using WhatsApp are yet to be revealed.
It starts with being bought by Facebook ...
I guess it would need to integrated into FaceTime so that when a FaceTime call goes unanswered you would have a choice to leave such a message.You already can it just doesn't have a special name.
Open an iMessage thread, hit the camera icon, pick "take photo or video", shoot your video, hit send.
$16bn worth of meat. I am not forgetting it.Are we conveniently forgetting that WhatsApp charges for service?
Whatever Facebook paid for it aside, WhatsApp ins't a free service and has a business model, that's the point.
Is that counting the ones that don't get through?!
The saying is steals it's thunder. It takes the big shock and awe away, it does not reinforce it. [/pethate]
I'm not surprised that such a large number of iMessages are being sent, when you think it is completely integrated into the ecosystem, most users don't even realise it is there.
I use iMessages whenever possible and it's not even a question if the person on the other end has it too.
PLUS FaceTime audio is amazing. I use it whenever I can because the sound quality is far better than any cell phone call I've ever been on.