Apple Introduces iCloud: Contact, Cal, Docs, Photos, and Music Syncing Free of Charge

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    After giving the stage over to Phil Schiller and Scott Forstall for much of today's WWDC keynote, Steve Jobs himself introduced iCloud to the world.

    The PC was the hub for your digital life, with all your media hosted on the computer. That's worked well for 10 years, but we're in a post-PC era now. Devices have changed, and everything now has photos and video. It's a hassle to "acquire" a song, and sync all your devices and get everything on it. "Keeping these devices in sync is driving us crazy," Steve told the crowd.

    So, the digital hub, a concept that Apple launched with the iPod 10 years ago, is being moved to the cloud. All devices can talk to the cloud whenever they want, with instant propagation to all other devices. With iCloud, users get 5GB of free storage for mail, documents and backups; purchased music, apps and books don't count.

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    "Some people think a cloud is just a hard disk in the sky," Steve told the crowd. "We think it's way more than that." iCloud stores content (think contacts, calendar, photos, music), with wireless push to all devices. But the kicker is, it's completely integrated with apps. Everything happens automatically, invisibly. "It just works."

    Ah, but, "why should we believe them? They're the ones who brought us MobileMe," Steve said to wild, slightly ironic cheers. MobileMe hasn't been the most reliable service in history -- after a disastrous rollout of MobileMe a few years back, Steve asked a group of executive in charge of the project what the service was supposed to do. After receiving a satisfactory answer, he exclaimed "then why the f*** doesn't it do that?!"

    Today, Steve admitted "MobileMe? It wasn't our finest hour, let me say that."

    iCloud completely replaces MobileMe. Mail, contacts, and calendar are all free. Contacts and calendars will be updated across devices, just like they currently do, but there are several new components to iCloud.

    First is the App Store. Users can see purchase history on all devices. Second, iBooks. Books and progress will be synced across devices. Once daily, "a lot of your important content" will be uploaded to the cloud, making it super easy to buy a new iOS device. Just type in your AppleID and password, and all your information will be automatically loaded up: music, apps, books, camera roll, device settings and app data.

    Apple has added documents to iCloud as well. Users can edit a document in iWork on a Mac, and it gets instantly pushed to iCloud, where it can be accessed on an iPad. All data is saved and backed up in the cloud. This functionality is built in to Pages, Numbers and Keynote. File transferring seems totally automatic and effortless.

    Tweak an existing document in Pages on a Mac, and it immediately gets saved to iCloud and changes are immediately pushed to an iPad.

    Apple has been working for 10 years to get rid of the file-storage system. It started with iOS, and has made its way to the Mac. iCloud entirely removes the concept of file-storage. Apps manage presentation of its own documents. Apps can store documents in iCloud, documents pushed automatically, with automatic updates on all devices when content is changed anywhere.

    For developers, Apple has provided iCloud storage API's, giving easy access to iCloud features for developers -- this is a developer's conference after all, and the dev's love it.

    Photo Stream, previewed earlier this year, is part of iCloud too. Photo Stream works just like documents, but your camera roll gets uploaded to the cloud, then sent to everything else. Users can import photos as well, and upload to the cloud. Steve stressed that all these features were built into apps, invisibly, "so there's nothing new to learn." On the Mac, Photo Stream is built in to iPhoto. Apple TV supports Photo Stream as well.

    Only the last 1,000 photos are stored in the cloud will be downloaded to iOS devices, but all photos will be stored on the Mac/PC side. Only 30 days of photos are stored on iCloud, so iCloud doesn't save all your data, it just makes sure that everything is synced up properly.

    Article Link: Apple Introduces iCloud: Contact, Cal, Docs, Photos, and Music Syncing Free of Charge
     
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    Does the icloud documents just sync keynote, numbers and pages? I was hoping for an improvement on idisk like dropbox but would allow me to sync any file types between my macs and work PC.
     
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    I noticed today that when I click the App Store on my iPhone and then Updates, I don't get my normal "No Updates Available". Instead, it is split into All and Not On This iPhone tabs.. so it appears iCloud is in limited play already.
     
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    With the iCloud API, I'm sure virtually every Mac application of any note will eventually be updated to hook into it.

    Depending on what's allowed, it may be the case that a developer could write a replacement for DropBox in a few lines of Objective C in XCode.
     
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    MobileMe

    I just renewed my mobileme 2 weeks ago.. Since its going away I wonder what I will get in exchange.. More iCloud space? I didnt catch any mention of it but i would be ok with that.
     
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    This will be really useful, the iPhone+iTunes have never had a solid way of transferring photos (not that I know of anyway, if there is I'll cry) so if this syncs it all to iCloud it will be so much easier.
     
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    If I read correctly, there are dev APIs for iCloud that can be incorporated into any app. So, if MS chooses they can have Office docs sync automatically to the cloud just like Pages, etc.
     
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    How about existing me.com accounts/email addresses?
    Of course can't connect to mobileme this morning...
    Really don't trust them they can make this work.
     
  9. Jbaffoh, Jun 6, 2011
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    Great, I just renewed MobileMe

    Family Plan: $149.00. Less than a month ago. Damn. So what did Apple give me? A free extension to June 30, 2012--almost 45 days free! Sigh.
     
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    I wonder what will happen regarding MobileMe refunds. And what about iDisk? iCloud gives you 5 GB. What if i already have more than that store on iDisk?
     
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    iWeb and @mac

    Any ideas on the future of iWeb and the hosting service that Apple has offered? The program has been ignored for a while and there's no indication of an upgrade or replacement.
    Also, will the @mac-email addresses continue to function after this free @me-offering is released?
    Any speculations on these unanswered issues?
     
  12. macrumors regular

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    Me too! Just bought is about a month ago. Oh well...
     
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    I wonder what happens with accounts with extended stuff (like space or family)
     
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    So I wonder what happens with purchased mobileme credits? I had purchased some on sale from amazon and had to wait to enter the code because you were only allowed to add one per year. I have since done this but in the meantime had purchased discounted mobileme credits when I got my iphone. These are sitting around waiting to be used.

    I hope there is an offer of a refund or perhaps if there are upgraded storage options for a fee that these credits can be used for that.
     
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    I'm very curious how our Apple ID will work with iCloud. Everyone who signs up for iCloud gets an @me.com e-mail address. Will this replace the e-mail we currently use as our Apple ID? Or, we will continue to sign-in and download Applications under our old e-mail's, and have the @me.com solely as an extra e-mail. :confused:
     
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    No Time Capsule?

    What!? No Time Capsule? If iCloud only stores my most recent items and the rest has to be stored on my Mac then how can they say the iDevices will now be independent of the Mac / PC?

    They even mentioned that many users are stating they want the iPad / iPhone to be their only device. So in this case where the heck will they store their files?

    :confused:
     
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    Several people reporting that their account for MobileMe that were just purchased recently are just showing as a "Free extension" until June 2012. Not sure how an extension of a product that is now free is any sort of extension.
     
  18. macrumors 6502

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    Yep I'd like to know about this too.
     
  19. macrumors 68000

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    Same here, was really hoping for a prorated credit or something... not sure what the benefit of extending our accounts for something that is going away is supposed to be.
     
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    Apple created that mess and they have no idea how to deal with it.
    Right now we have to id's - apple id and mobileme id, they can't
    recognize them and that's why so often I can't log in, I get
    "wrong id" message all the time. works on my iPhone, but it's terrible
    on my macs...
     
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    Really looking forward to info about:

    -iDisk
    -Pricing on Additional Storage
    -MobileMe refunds
    -E-mail addresses

    Please Apple, iCloud sounds really cool, but please don't screw over the folks who have grown to love all of the features dating back to .Mac.
     
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    I hope it is this way to allow for families to still share a single account for purchasing apps and music.
     
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    Not sure how this really gets rid of a file system... not that I personally want that. But, this does seem very convenient. I like how it seems very automated and behind the scenes...

    I also wonder if this means I'll be able to sync my ipad to more than one computer (if I own both machines and use the same apple ID on them? That would be awesome...! And many people have a desktop and a laptop, for example...)

    And it's free! :)
     
  24. macrumors 6502

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    Yes - and I already see the 'cloud' icons. It's either cloud icon, or "installed"
     
  25. macrumors 6502a

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    I guess I don't "get" it, what the big deal about this is.

    I already have Gmail.

    I already have Flickr.

    And I already have online storage.

    How is this any different?
     

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