Apple patents translucent windows

Discussion in 'General Mac Discussion' started by Diatribe, May 16, 2004.

  1. macrumors 601


    Jan 8, 2004
    Back in the motherland
    Don't know if this has been posted before, couldn't find it at least.

    Found this on
    US Patent...

    Apple is on the move. :D If they keep patenting their entire UI what is M$ going to copy? They would actually have to invent something themselves... :eek:
    Like Gates did with DOS :p
    Seriously, I usually don't like patents on software, but I'm kind of ambiguos when it comes to Apple and everyone ripping them off.
  2. macrumors 601


    Aug 19, 2003
    Manila - Nottingham - Philadelphia - Santa Barbar
    yeah longhorn will be in trouble if everything apple is doing is patented
  3. macrumors 68040


    Looks like Apple and M$ could have patent fights over Longhorn if they copy the translucency feature, of course by the time M$ gets Longhorn out the patent will expire.
  4. macrumors 6502a


    Mar 22, 2004
    United States
    Very true, very true... :D . I'm glad to see that Apple is patenting their ideas. Now if they had only done that with the mouse... Punch cards anyone??? :D

  5. macrumors 6502a


    Nov 22, 2003
    Sounds sweet! :D
  6. thread starter macrumors 601


    Jan 8, 2004
    Back in the motherland
    To be fair here you gotta say that Jobs bought the mouse from xerox... But they invented the majority of their stuff themselves in contrast to M$ :D
  7. macrumors 68000

    baby duck monge

    Feb 16, 2003
    Memphis, TN
    i like it (though it would be nice for them to have had some example screen shots :p )

    anything that lets me see certain resources without them getting in the way of my work is a happy thing. and for those who like to keep all sorts of stuff open at once, but don't have a second monitor or anything, this should help minimize the clutter.
  8. macrumors regular

    Jan 29, 2003
    The patent was filed in november of 2003- the drawings have a mac os 9 user interface- may make its way into tiger, may not.

  9. macrumors 603


    Jun 19, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    I have mixed feeling over this. On one hand I'm sick of Apple getting screwed over by MS in terms of copying their features. A few threads back I was defending MS's login screen as being the first to the market in terms of that "look" Diving further into the subject it was OS X 10.1 that came out with that look so it does look like MS copied Apple and its a forgone conclusion that this isn't the first time they did that at least in recent history. We all know about the original battle between MS and Apple.

    However it works both ways. What if MS patented fast user switching? They had it first. Apple wouldn't have that feature right now. And that is the other end of the spectrum I'm feeling. Copying someone shouldn't be seen as a crime against humanity. It allows other OS's to adopt feature that in a litigious world would never make their way to that OS or if nothing else a company would most likely end up paying through the nose for a feature. Lets be real. If Apple had to pay MS to license fast user switching in all likelihood they would say screw that and we'd have never seen it.

    I'm all for giving a company credit for a feature but not at the cost of stifling innovation. What if a company had a new and innovative method of using fast user switching but couldn't use it because they couldn't afford it?

    No I don't think companies should be allowed to patent software techniques or if nothing else have a limited patent. Say 5 years?

    Apparently Germany and I feel the same way:

    Germany decides not to support the EC on software patents

  10. macrumors newbie

    May 17, 2004
    Santa Cruz County
    Software patenting is a really iffy issue for myself as well. Amazon wanted to patent the cookie. That sounds ridiculous, since that is an extension of a series of protocols that are famous for being open and used by everyone.

    In the EU case, they are trying to patent things like window bars and the buttons that close windows. In my mind, this is the same thing as translucent windows or quick user switching. While they are innovative, I have to weigh it against what I think a company's contribution to society is. Software companies like Apple and Microsoft and even XFree have an amazing ability to create a superior user experience with what is becoming, if not already, the most important tool humans have besides thier thumbs and brains. To protect the illusion of ownership is, in my opinion, poor taste.

    Of course, I am a strong advocate in open source software, while at the same time not dependent on it as an income. With that said, I believe Apple could reach a better balance between profit and IP-theft. Also important to note, Apple is, first and foremost, a hardware company. Hardware is several times eaiser to protect, from an IP standpoint, than software. The more I think on it, I can appreciate the motives Apple has. I still disagree. ^_^


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