That's not very surprising, and it seems like any organization gets a free pass as long as they look like a charity, but there must be some non-profits that aren't all about making money. I'm pretty sure all corporations are about making money.
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Apple Pulls Products from Environmental EPEAT Registry
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That's not very surprising, and it seems like any organization gets a free pass as long as they look like a charity, but there must be some non-profits that aren't all about making money. I'm pretty sure all corporations are about making money.
That's hilarious, I really don't think Steve Jobs sat around in India or in his counter culture interests thinking.... I want to make the most money I can, I want to be filthy rich.
Jobs lived a modest and private life, it's been well documented. He worked hard for his company that cared not about money but making good products. These great products brought good sales and in turn $$$. Jobs was smart, he didn't build the company trying to make money, he made money from selling is great ideas.
Sorry no, as an architect I personally choose to solve problems putting environmental and eco issues as a priority. Again proportionally apple only gives the smallest %, in monetary values this may look big but they could do plenty more if they wanted. You're not bright enough to realize that, your homework is to read this http://www.apple.com/environment/.
Even then, the soldered-on RAM is bogus. It's a trick to make people have to buy more RAM from Apple instead of just upgrading.
I have been back on windows for almost 3 years. I bought a 2011 macbook but returned it. And I use and prefer android currently.
Isn't selling your great ideas "trying to make money"? Sure people make companies based on what they love and what they're interested in, but the goal is to make money.
Since Apple will replace any battery for a fixed price, I cannot see how a faulty battery would be "almost unrepairable".
I'm sure they are somewhat harder to recycle. However, you can return any Apple product to Apple and Apple will recycle it; in many cases you will get some money off a new purchase. And while say a Retina MacBook Pro may not be recyclable with "commonly available tools", I would bet that Apple has the tools to recycle it.
Soldered RAM is cheaper, takes less space, and gives better connections. There are excellent technical reasons for soldered RAM. Of course you lose the ability to upgrade, which is a disadvantage, but there are definitely advantages.
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Apple gets certified by environmental group?
Praise apple for being environmentally conscious.
Apple opt for a design change that won't get them certification anymore?
Attack environmental groups.
This though is the best thing I 've read all day, hilarious and priceless.
This is a bit disappointing; all they real needed to do was find a way to make the batteries removable in the newer laptops, which I can't believe was beyond Apple's capabilities.
An easily removable keyboard on the laptops could surely expose the inner workings; even if most of it wasn't user serviceable the point is really to avoid glueing everything, after all there are tons of tiny screws out there that they could have used, or even small spacers that pack everything together would have allowed them to hold things in place without it being impossible to disassemble.
Even if it were impossible for laptops (don't believe it) then they should at least be making the iMac and Mac Mini a bit easier; while the Mac Mini's RAM access was a great addition, the relative difficulty of accessing the internal drive(s) was still a bit of a downer.
Can they not submit individual products for certification? They have to at least make sure the Mac Pro remains certified as the current model is pretty easy to disassemble; it's a pain in the arse and can be a bit time consuming, but it's not difficult.
An easily removable keyboard on the laptops could surely expose the inner workings; even if most of it wasn't user serviceable the point is really to avoid glueing everything, after all there are tons of tiny screws out there that they could have used, or even small spacers that pack everything together would have allowed them to hold things in place without it being impossible to disassemble.
Even if it were impossible for laptops (don't believe it) then they should at least be making the iMac and Mac Mini a bit easier; while the Mac Mini's RAM access was a great addition, the relative difficulty of accessing the internal drive(s) was still a bit of a downer.
Can they not submit individual products for certification? They have to at least make sure the Mac Pro remains certified as the current model is pretty easy to disassemble; it's a pain in the arse and can be a bit time consuming, but it's not difficult.
Interesting. EPEAT Gold is a requirement for all computers purchased by my employer. I guess the Apple project just got cancelled.
Given a few months I'm sure Lenovo will manage it just fine. And it'll be EPEAT certified. It might be .02" thicker but that's just fine my me. Thinness isn't everything.
Invariably in the business world if you give someone a smaller and lighter laptop they just carry more paperwork around to make up for it. I call it Magic's law of upper management.
From reading the article, the problem isn't that the kit can't be recycled; it's that it can't be recycled by just anybody.
I suspect that Apple just wants all its unwanted kit returned to them. They can take the parts and reuse them in new/refurbished products. I also think that they're trying to avoid a future where folk buy a new thin and shiny laptop that is actually made up of components salvaged from dumped Apple stuff.
No matter how much folk here bang on about being able to open up their laptops and change this and upgrade that, the vast majority of machines are never opened, never upgraded and dumped in a landfill when a better model comes out.
So I don't have a problem with Apple pulling out of this scheme, but they have to have something better to replace it with, and with an incentive for people to actually use it.
I suspect that Apple just wants all its unwanted kit returned to them. They can take the parts and reuse them in new/refurbished products. I also think that they're trying to avoid a future where folk buy a new thin and shiny laptop that is actually made up of components salvaged from dumped Apple stuff.
No matter how much folk here bang on about being able to open up their laptops and change this and upgrade that, the vast majority of machines are never opened, never upgraded and dumped in a landfill when a better model comes out.
So I don't have a problem with Apple pulling out of this scheme, but they have to have something better to replace it with, and with an incentive for people to actually use it.
As a mac user, I am sad about this. It's one of the many things Apple is doing that I find very disappointing. From killing FCP to this.
There's no "trick" involved. You know that is not upgradable before you buy it. Or you figure it out inside of two weeks & return/exchange it. There is no slight of hand going on here.
BS. Making money is Apple's business. Where do you think the dollars for innovation come from, goodwill.
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I look forward to seeing you on the news in front of Cupertino with an environmental protest sign.
As I mentioned in a thread a few weeks ago, as the MBPr construction was revealed, this is an example of the incredible hypocrisy & arrogance of Apple.
I'm such a die hard Apple enthusiast, I love their laptops, their OS, and so much more.
Yet it's stunts like this that are so repulsive.
Not that long ago, one of the centerpieces of their ad campaign was them bragging about being the greenest, most environmentally responsible manufacturer of laptops & iToyz.
Only Apple could get away with such bad behavior with little or no push back from customers & the press.
Apple Inc, the masters of smoke & mirrors hype, hypocritical attacks on opponents, and legal lunacy. If they had a conscience & cared, they'd be embarrassed.
Yet with Apples cult like followers, and Al Gores backing perhaps they'll win an award for their new disclosures
I'm such a die hard Apple enthusiast, I love their laptops, their OS, and so much more.
Yet it's stunts like this that are so repulsive.
Not that long ago, one of the centerpieces of their ad campaign was them bragging about being the greenest, most environmentally responsible manufacturer of laptops & iToyz.
Only Apple could get away with such bad behavior with little or no push back from customers & the press.
Apple Inc, the masters of smoke & mirrors hype, hypocritical attacks on opponents, and legal lunacy. If they had a conscience & cared, they'd be embarrassed.
Yet with Apples cult like followers, and Al Gores backing perhaps they'll win an award for their new disclosures
Hmm, I dunno... Such a system of recycling would seem to become more closed and under less scrutiny. "Send them to us, we'll take care of it". Sure takes a lot of confidence in their brand to believe they'll spend a ton of resources they didn't need to spend before to recycle their own new, improved hard-to-recycle computers!
I'm pretty sure it's in the best interests of the environment to allow any organization to recycle the machines, and that more users will care for upgrading their computers than worry about 1-2mm added in thickness, even despite only a minority upgrading.
I think Apple has crossed a thickness line here. They're now even hurting their brand as an environmentally-friendly designer. This implies that Apple believes that a typical Apple customer will choose thin computers over more environmentally sound competitors. This strategy will work if Apple is correct.
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