Apple 'Questioning' the Future of its Mac Pro Line?

Discussion in ' News Discussion' started by MacRumors, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001


    Late last week, we noted that with pricing information on Intel's upcoming Sandy Bridge E Xeon processors surfacing, Apple's options for a potential "Early 2012" Mac Pro have begun to clear up. The Mac Pro has not been updated since mid-2010, and delays in Intel's new chips have pushed their availability out from late this year to early next year.

    But despite the new processors now being in sight, AppleInsider reports that Apple is reportedly "questioning" the future of the Mac Pro line and whether it will even release updated models.
    The report's source indicates that with Intel's new Thunderbolt connectivity standard making its way across all of Apple's Mac products, those products now have enhanced flexibility to assume some of the tasks that have historically been handled the Mac Pro. Combined with a continuing shift towards notebooks that has seen the desktop share of Apple's Mac business fall from 70% ten years ago to under 30% today, the increasing power of Apple's other Macs has resulted in the Mac Pro becoming only a minor portion of Apple's product lineup.


    Speculation in the report suggests that Apple could elect to offer higher-end versions of its iMac or Mac mini models in an attempt to appease those buyers looking for the power of a Mac Pro. Those smaller form factor machines are, however, unable to match a number of the Mac Pro's other features, although Apple apparently believes that Thunderbolt could serve as a means to bring some of that expandability from the Mac Pro to other Macs.

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  2. macrumors 6502


    Nov 25, 2007
    Bellevue, WA
    This isn't a rumor. It's pure speculation that has been beaten to death and beyond on the Mac Pro forum.
  3. Guest


    Aug 6, 2008
    Manchester UK
  4. macrumors 604


    Jul 6, 2009
    Would hate to see them discontinue the Mac Pro.
  5. macrumors regular

    Feb 11, 2009

    No! Don't drop the Mac Pro line. I will be forced to buy a Windows Based machine if I want a tower that I can upgrade. For the sake of the small consumer base, upgrade parts, keep the design. Shouldn't cost you much.
  6. macrumors 603

    Aug 29, 2008
    They are making things smaller. Don't want to see this go though.
  7. macrumors regular


    Jan 21, 2011
    Helsinki, Finland
  8. macrumors member

    Apr 30, 2010
    Back in the day the main benefits to the MacPro were the expansion slots, dual processor, extra hard drives, and dual processors.

    Now days with iMacs coming with quad cores, 16 GB of ram, and terrabytes of hard drive space, and thunderbolts ability to add external storage, and an expansion slot chassis; I think this is an obvious move. Add a duel processor option to the iMac and there you go. The only people this will hurt is the people that use Mac OSX Server as the MacPro and MacMini is the only server hardware they currently offer.
  9. macrumors 6502


    Oct 2, 2008
    It's not pure speculation if they have sources…
  10. macrumors P6


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier
  11. macrumors 601


    Jan 6, 2004
    Western US
    Uh oh, here we go. Let the tooth-gnashing and hand-wringing commence! :eek:
  12. macrumors 6502a

    Apr 17, 2006
    Las Vegas
    The only thing Apple needs to reconsider is having this being a dual socket system. The new Xeon socket 2011 systems will have up to 8 cores on a single CPU and 4 channels of RAM. If they can put two DIMM slots per channel like they do now, thats 8 RAM slots and 8 cores, 16 threads.

    If they only have a single socket version that will do. Apple could make the system cheaper and reduce engineering costs.
  13. macrumors 603


    Oct 29, 2007
  14. macrumors 6502a


    Aug 31, 2008
    wouldn't be surprised if the Mac Pro died though I'd expect to see some kind of expandable type to come and replace it.. Could just be a redesign in the works
  15. macrumors newbie

    Oct 19, 2011
    This was suppose to be my Apple products of Apple products. They better not end it here, where I now actually have the money to purchase one.
  16. macrumors member

    Aug 24, 2008
    I need a Mac Pro upgrade and a true update of Final Cut Studio, this FCPX is killing me.
  17. macrumors member

    Aug 26, 2005
    Ottawa, Canada
    Every drive bay in my MacPro is used, and I do not want to have to house them all externally.
  18. macrumors 603


    This could be the unlikely and unforseen path to an upgradable mini (midi) form factor device. There has been clamoring for a replacement to the cube (Steve's fav) in the form of an upgradable mid-priced unit with exceptional graphics capabilities.

    The PC is not entirely dead yet and an Intel chip is over $500 itself in a world where an A5 is about $25 bucks.

    Apple can release a product in the PowerMac arena but cannot make demand out of nothing.

    What they can do is increase the expandability features with "device boxes" that attach via Thunderbolt and accept graphics cards, pci cards, drives, and even add value such as GPU ganging as coprocessors. Perhaps even a blade server scheme. All BTO and all set to safety stocks among the lowest at Apple.

  19. macrumors 65816


    Apr 12, 2007
    Well, that's a shame. Although I would never require a beast such as Mac Pro, I see them a lot at universities for rendering and stuff. Would be a shame to see them disappear from that image.

    I was afraid this would happen since the iPad launched. Apple is persueing iOS, not the Mac.
  20. macrumors 604

    Jul 29, 2003
    Silicon Valley
    Apple stopped licensing Mac OS out to prevent these vendors from taking all the high profit high-end sales. If high-end sales are no longer interesting or profitable for Apple, maybe it's time for them to reconsider licensing Mac OS X to select high-end system vendors. Maybe IBM for blades or racks? What other potential licensee makes systems that wouldn't degrade the Mac OS experience?
  21. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 25, 2006
    Offer a cheaper version with a single Core i7, it will sell like crazy... But still offer an 8-/12-core for the professionals who need one.

    I own a 2009 8-core now, but it's overkill for me. A Core i7 version would be perfect.
  22. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 27, 2010
    California and Texas
  23. macrumors P6


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier
    It's gonna be expensive to add two thunderbolt graphics cards, 4 hard drives and 16 CPU's to a Mini.
  24. macrumors 68040

    Jun 12, 2005
    If they can come up with an iMac where we can add external processor cores or GPU's or RAM through Thunderbolt, I wouldn't mind.
  25. macrumors 6502a


    Feb 4, 2003
    I have a 30" DVI Cinema Display and a 23" DVI Cinema am I supposed to hook these up to an iMac?

    Also, my 2006 Pro which I've been waiting patiently to replace has 5 internal HDs. I don't want to move them to some JBOD external box.

    The iMac also now has the annoying feature of the hard drive temp sensor built in to the drive of the computer making it impossible to replace.

    Apple needs to have Pro Level hardware for customers who require Pro features.

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