Apple Says Government Trying to 'Rewrite History' by Using All Writs Act as 'All-Powerful Magic Wand'

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    Following the U.S. government's filing last week once again urging the court to compel Apple to assist the FBI in unlocking the iPhone of San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook, a document Apple general counsel Bruce Sewell called a "cheap shot," Apple today filed its response arguing that the government's reliance on the All Writs Act dating back to 1789 as justification for the request is an attempt to "rewrite history by portraying the Act as an all-powerful magic wand rather than the limited procedural tool it is."

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    Today's filing, shared by Business Insider, outlines Apple's arguments as to why the All Writs Act should not apply in this situation and reiterates a number of positions the company has previously described, including belief that this issue needs to be settled legislatively and that the imposition of the order would cause "unprecedented and offensive burdens" and violate both Apple's First Amendment rights and the Due Process Clause.
    Apple goes on to outline its arguments as to why the All Writs Act is not applicable, noting that Congress had previously declined to expand the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) to include scenarios such as this and that the government's request usurps the legislative authority exercised by Congress.
    In its conclusion, Apple argues that "the government's motivations are understandable, but its methods for achieving its objectives are contrary to the rule of law, the democratic process, and the rights of the American people."

    A court hearing to address the issue is scheduled for next Tuesday, March 22, the day after Apple's media event where it is expected to introduce a new 4-inch "iPhone SE" and a new 9.7-inch iPad, as well as make a few additional announcements.

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  2. Goldfrapp, Mar 15, 2016
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    FBI, DOJ have become synonymous with "Republicans" who always "think backwards, in reverse."
     
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    The government currently doesn't seem to care about whatever defense is made. Maybe Apple should get John Oliver to make a statement on their behalf.
     
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    This is fast becoming a competition to see who can use the most ear-catching analogy to defame the other side.

    So far, I think Apple is winning.
     
  5. Zwhaler macrumors 603

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    You know they're desperate when they resort to something written in 1789...

    (I'm not downplaying important legislation on the whole from that period like the Constitution...)
     
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    As someone who votes liberal most of the time, I disagree. Both major political parties are equally awful when it comes to law enforcement over-reach, privacy issues, and circumventing proper open due process.
     
  7. rick3000 macrumors 6502a

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    I read the entire brief, it's am impressive piece of legal work. I particularly enjoyed Apple calling the DOJ out for deliberately misquoting certain things to make their case stronger.
     
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    Apple vs Big Brother. Its like a prophecy coming true.
     
  9. soupcan, Mar 15, 2016
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    The FBI is using a 18th century act for 21st century tech. You know they've goofed up somewhere in order for the FBI to be so desperate.

    I read trough it. Man does the FBI/DOJ get **** on holy balls. It's glorious.
     
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    The FBI is drunk with power. And, the people in Congress are clueless, if they decide. If it goes to SCOTUS, who knows what will happen? It might be one of those moments where the impact of not having enough conservatives on the bench becomes really obvious.

    Apple is easily in the right here, but I'm not going to be holding my breath on the actual outcome. We might be looking back on this as that crucial moment when bill of rights really fell apart (though it's been being eroded for a while now).
     
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    It's time someone stood up to the DOJ and Apple has the RIGHT argument for personal security.
     
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    For the US Government, 1789=1984.

    Just noticed the words on the FBI badge—Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity. I could hardly think of less appropriate words for the FBI now.

    I suggest they are replaced with Fecklessness, Balls-Up, Idiocy.
     
  14. RogerWilco macrumors 6502

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    This will end up in the Supreme Court. Apple will lose because Ginsberg, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Kennedy don't respect individual rights. A tie vote reverts the case back to the appellate court decision. And to think a lot of people cheered when Scalia died, he would have probably sided with Apple.
     
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    Don't fool yourself- there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the two parties. Both are controlled by neocons, both are an embarrassment to the people that helped found them and build them as well as staunch party members who vote according to the respective platforms, when those platforms are nothing more than window dressing anymore. Might as well call them demublicans and republicrats.
     
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    Aren't both of these agencies, along with the White House currently occupied by democrats?
     
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    Statements like this make me wonder if posters are deliberately postings lies to get equally crazy responses, or are they just that stupid and believe what they are saying.
     
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    I really like knowing my drug dealing and trafficking women data is secure and that Apple is protecting me and hampering law enforcement.
     
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    I like Federal Bureau of Incompetence more. Or Federal Bunch of Idiots.
     
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    Did it ever occur to you that a technology capable of defeating encryption would allow "the authorities" to add any data they wanted to your device and then claim it was yours? This is how tyranny rolls.
     
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    The All Writs Act, right up there with the Alien and Sedition Act...

    We need to defeat the Federalists at the next election!
     
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    Last time I checked, the DOJ has operated under Obama for the last seven years, but don't let me interfere with your blatant left wing political bias.
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    The left wing Democrats are the real threats to personal freedom now. The two states that wanted a version of the iPhone that they could break into are the perpetually Democratic states of New York and California. I think the left has started to miss the old Soviet Union.
     
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    Nowadays, when I see a post with such a deliberately incorrect statement, I immediately put them on my "Ignore" list, assuming there's a high likelihood that they are just some sort of paid troll. Not worth our time.
     
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    It's probably just one of those left wing nuts that believes that only moves to the left are considered moving forwards. They should go and experience North Korea for a while.
     

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