Apple Seeds OS X 10.8.5 Build 12F17 to Developers

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple today seeded build 12F17 of OS X 10.8.5 to developers, offering a third version of the next Mac operating system update for testing. The release comes one week after the appearance of the previous beta of OS X 10.8.5, build 12F13.

    As with previous betas, the update comes with no known issues and can be downloaded via Apple's Developer Page or through the software update tool in the Mac App Store.

    Testing on OS X 10.8.5 comes as Apple is also continuing work on its next major version of OS X, Mavericks. Apple has already seeded two developer previews of OS X Mavericks and has announced that it will launch the new operating system to the public this fall.

    Article Link: Apple Seeds OS X 10.8.5 Build 12F17 to Developers
  2. LorenzMeir macrumors 6502

    Aug 13, 2012
    Can any one explain to me why they are still doing this instead of putting extra work in Mavericks? Not that it bothers me, just asking
  3. WildCowboy Administrator/Editor


    Staff Member

    Jan 20, 2005
    Mavericks isn't coming for months, and there are things in Mountain Lion that need fixing.
  4. laflores macrumors regular

    May 5, 2011
    Costa Rica
    Because otherwise, people would start crying because "apple doesn't care about mountain lion any more" and some people will complain that mavericks is a piece of **** and they rather stay with snow leopard...
  5. beelzebubba macrumors newbie

    Jun 22, 2013
    Because many people still run ML and will even after Mavericks comes out. ML will likely be the end of the line for some older Macs and Apple has done fairly well in supporting legacy machines even past the five year end of life.
  6. macs4nw macrumors 68040


    Good to hear those developer seeds coming out with regularity. Reassuring to know APPLE is on the ball with this.
  7. rdlink macrumors 68040


    Nov 10, 2007
    Out of the Reach of the FBI
  8. ogee macrumors 6502

    Nov 8, 2006
    Snow leopard...and what is wrong with Panther ????

  9. darkknight14 macrumors 6502


    Apr 18, 2011
    Me too, every time I look at that new wave background it makes me want to go for a p***
  10. Mr. Retrofire macrumors 601

    Mr. Retrofire

    Mar 2, 2010
    He ate my socks. Holy, sock eating panther!
  11. mstrshikadance macrumors newbie

    Oct 11, 2008
    (not trolling)

    first time that safari has ever been snappier for me....running rMBP.....but it might also just be because safari in mavs is horrible
  12. iBug2 macrumors 68040

    Jun 12, 2005
    Are you kidding me? Safari 7.0 finally solves the memory issue which was introduced in 5.1 where when you open many tabs, web process just crashes. 7.0 does not have that, the single most annoying Safari bug in 2 years being solved finally.
  13. rdlink macrumors 68040


    Nov 10, 2007
    Out of the Reach of the FBI
    Tiny update. Took about 30 seconds to install over the last seed.
  14. vindictum macrumors member


    Jul 28, 2012
    Well, I have rMBP too, and Safari is much much better in Mavericks.... nearly butter-smooth :)
  15. MikhailT macrumors 601

    Nov 12, 2007
    You do know that Mavs will run any Macs that also run ML, right? ML isn't the end of the line for anything.
  16. beelzebubba macrumors newbie

    Jun 22, 2013
    A compatibility matrix hasn't been released yet though there is an understanding that most machines that will run ML will run Mavericks. Requirement of the "advanced GPU" could be one of the determining factors. There has been no official word that everything that runs ML will run Mavericks.

    The post that somehow the resources devoted to 10.8.5 impede Mavericks is specious from the get go. Throwing resources or developers at a release doesn't automatically mean it will develop quicker. The 10.8.4 machines still have issues that need to be resolved. If one looks at the release history, particularly when there is a large upgrade they would find a pattern similar to the release pattern currently in use. The release schedule shouldn't be news to anyone that's been developing for or even following the platform for any length of time.
  17. katewes macrumors 6502

    Jun 7, 2007
    For the latest beta seed, can someone, who has used it, find it within themselves to just stated the speed of shutdown in seconds, with no further comment, either positive or negative. i.e. no comments such as, "Why are people upset with slow shutdown times". Just empirically state the shutdown time, in seconds, period. Full stop. No comment.


    As a Chrome user, it'll have to be snappier than Chrome to tempt me away.
  18. M5RahuL macrumors 68020


    Aug 1, 2009
    No change in 10.8.5 and 10.9 DP 2
  19. Kariya macrumors 68000


    Nov 3, 2010
    Is Aperture broken for anyone else in this seed?
  20. ValSalva macrumors 68040


    Jun 26, 2009
    Burpelson AFB
    So far I haven't noticed any changes with this build. Yet.
  21. vindictum macrumors member


    Jul 28, 2012
    How about your curiosity? :p Use it and see for yourself :)
  22. iBug2 macrumors 68040

    Jun 12, 2005
    Chrome on Mac is never as snappy as Safari. Safari is the best coded browser on Mac in terms of speed.
  23. DJJAZZYJET macrumors 6502

    Jun 4, 2011

    I love safari for Mac. I love google chrome for windows.
  24. fivedots, Jul 4, 2013
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2013

    fivedots macrumors 6502a

    Jun 29, 2011
    Chrome remains terrible for me on my 15" rMBP; the scrolling is nowhere near smooth, whereas Safari is excellent.

    There are couple little things I do miss from Chrome, notably favicons on the tabs for easy identification and the tiny fact that when closing a lot of tabs, chrome doesn't resize them until you mouse away from the tab area so the targets you may be trying to click aren't moving.
  25. gwang73 macrumors 6502


    Jun 14, 2009
    San Francisco Area
    Aperture v3.4.5 is working fine for me. What's broken for you?

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