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DTphonehome

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Apr 4, 2003
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At $19, MAYBE it would be worth it... perhaps if it charged off of USB. But I'm just wondering why in the world Apple saw it necessary to enter the battery charger market? :confused:
 

kernkraft

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Jun 25, 2009
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Take my camera's battery charger. 2 days ago it finished charging. 1.9 days ago I unplugged it. I could probably improve on that time too.

According my calculations, you'd be still wasting over two hours of standby time. 143 minutes, to be precise. :)
 

nagromme

macrumors G5
May 2, 2002
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So far my 4 year old RadioShack battery charger has done a great job. In the past five months is gets a lot of use recharging my Magic Mouse batteries every 3 weeks :eek:

Those batteries are dying. My Magic Mouse goes for months and months on a charge.

I do need new batteries and a new charger... I’ll await reviews and details (like getting additional batteries), but this Apple unit sounds pretty good! I’m glad their doing this and discouraging people’s throw-away AA habits.
 

archer75

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Jan 26, 2005
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I don't care about standby power usage. By the time it's in standby i've unplugged the thing from the wall.

And duracell has a recharge and battery pack on amazon with 4 AA and 4 AAA batteries for $27

I could make better use of AAA batteries than AA.
 

0098386

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Jan 18, 2005
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At $19, MAYBE it would be worth it... perhaps if it charged off of USB. But I'm just wondering why in the world Apple saw it necessary to enter the battery charger market? :confused:

Look around. People are buying something that is overpriced because it has the Apple badge on it. That's why.

FWIW I'd also capitalise off people's daftness.
 

nagromme

macrumors G5
May 2, 2002
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A wired version of the Magic Trackpad uses even less power, is cheaper to produce and will always work. Apple should go greener.

Greenest of all: sell slower computers. Or just abaci :)

There has to be a compromise between usability and power, or you may as well not sell electronics.

I conserve power obsessively, and I thought wireless mouse/keyboard were silly.... until I tried them, and the lack of cord dragging through my papers was almost as welcome as the ability to compute from my sofa.
 

jeffereyj

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Aug 8, 2007
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some critical questions

- how long does it take to complete a charge?

- what mAh rating are the batteries? (this is crucial)

- why NiHM? isn't that old/crap technology? Lion is way better...
 

GQB

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Sep 26, 2007
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So far my 4 year old RadioShack battery charger has done a great job. In the past five months is gets a lot of use recharging my Magic Mouse batteries every 3 weeks :eek:

Of course. But that's not the point.
Does the RS charger stop pulling full juice once the batteries are charged?

Not saying it doesn't, but THAT's the point of this charger.
 

RMo

macrumors 65816
Aug 7, 2007
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How much will apple be charging for batteries though?

It will charge any NiMH battery, and it comes with six already (not bad for this price and a charger, especially considering the usual Apple Tax)--so personally, I'm not concerned about that.

I do wonder why everyone is thinking this is so revolutionary, however. Rechargeable batteries are not new, although before NiMH they weren't the greatest for many uses. I've never used Eneloops (a supposedly improved NiMH--well, less discharge during storage at the expense of less overall capacity), but they seem to be making similar claims. Vampire power shouldn't be a huge concern--you should unplug it if you're not using it, anyway. I guess I'm just saying these are (supposedly) high-quality rechargeables ... but it's nothing new except Apple's PR.

The compact charger may be nice for people short on space, however.

Does anyone have any information about the specs of the batteries and charger? That's what I'd really like to know. It looks like a rapid charger (does that affect battery life? mine is a slow charger), and I assume it's a "smart" one that can detect charge level and turn off automatically. Also, what capacity are the batteries? 2000 mAh? (That's what Eneloops are, IIRC, but others are around 2500 or 2700.)
 

AbSoluTc

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I'd be curious as to how these compare with Eneloop batteries and a LaCrosse charger. I just picked up a 10 pack of Eneloops to replace my old and dying 5 year old energizer batteries for $25. The LaCrosse charger is great for correctly charging batteries as well as being able to cycle them.

This is what I use. Best bang for the buck. I also picked up the Enloop USB charger. I use that mostly.
 

nagromme

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May 2, 2002
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You know you're on a fanboy site when there is this much excitement about a friggin' BATTERY CHARGER! :rolleyes:

Actually, it'd be a lot nicer if the batteries were re-chargeable within the devices THEMSELVES.

Tony

You know Apple has yet another great product when it has the trolls feeling so insecure they actually spend their time on name-calling :)

In-device charging is great. But it needs a cord (USB or otherwise). Is one cord better than one charger brick and no cord? Your call—but not for me. I’d rather travel with a folding brick than one more yard of rubber pasta.
 

dZp

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Mar 29, 2006
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I do hope Apple will also be making a bumper/case for that charger. :rolleyes:
 

JonboyDC

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Jul 19, 2004
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I try to stick with wired peripherals, so I wouldn't need this for Apple products. But it would be a real boon when traveling out of the U.S. The ability to swap out the prongs and to use this in almost any country, all in a super small package, would mean I wouldn't have to worry about running out of batteries while overseas.
 

baryon

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Oct 3, 2009
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It was a bit contradictory that Apple was going so green, while offering more and more wireless accessories as standard (Magic Mouse and Wireless Keyboard) that consume batteries all the time while there isn't a true need for them to be wireless.

However, now with this charger, they really solved the problem I think.

Will we be able to buy Apple's rechargeable batteries separately, or only with the charger? It's Apple, you never know!

Why is the "Vampire Draw" so important? I mean I understand that it's important, but does it mean that we're free to leave the charger plugged in all the time? Or are we encouraged to unplug it when it's not charging, in which case the "Vampire Draw" doesn't matter anyway?
 

JAT

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Dec 31, 2001
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At $19, MAYBE it would be worth it... perhaps if it charged off of USB. But I'm just wondering why in the world Apple saw it necessary to enter the battery charger market? :confused:

Look around. People are buying something that is overpriced because it has the Apple badge on it. That's why.

FWIW I'd also capitalise off people's daftness.

Low discharge AAs go for $10/4 (or more $$$), that's $15 for the batteries and $15 for the charger. That's just fine in this marketplace, not expensive at all. (if it is a quality charger) My 8 cell charger was $90, worth every penny.
 

kryca

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Jul 6, 2010
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A wired version of the Magic Trackpad uses even less power, is cheaper to produce and will always work. Apple should go greener.

EXACTLY! Couldn't agree more. At least giving people who don't want to enter this battery business a choice. Batteries are a major environmental problem, yet they are being used as if there was no energy and waste problem on this planet.
 

wschutz

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Jun 5, 2007
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- how long does it take to complete a charge?

- what mAh rating are the batteries? (this is crucial)

- why NiHM? isn't that old/crap technology? Lion is way better...

Your questions (I'm sorry) doesn't matter... these innovative and never-done-before chargers are from Apple... hence they sell like sweets...

Now... more serious... you gotta be kidding me... this the proof of how a company which once was respected becomes a consumerism company where money is the only thing that matters.
And note that money is a very right goal for a company... but at least... don't say you want the best for the user like Apple does... when you care for user's money!!!
 

gheat93

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Jun 11, 2010
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How? I think it's a great idea as the disposal of batteries by millions is a major environmental issue. I already own rechargeable batteries but they don't hold their charge well. If what Apple states is true, for the price you'd save $$$ from buying batteries and reduce e-waste. Sure it seems silly but if the product is that good, then I give them credit.

No, the product is not good, nor is it innovative. The rechargeable battery market has been around for years: there are plenty of other (likely superior) chargers out there. The only "feature" this has is its reduced stand-by draw; but their claim can probably be disputed. Really, it looks to me that Apple is increasingly trying to exert their brand these days... A practice that vaguely reminds me of companies like Microsoft.
 

tivoboy

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May 15, 2005
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It's just like Apple to take something simple and make it even better. Way to go, Apple!

AND, more expensive.

I bought a charge a couple years ago, with "10 year" cells, for eight cells and charge it cost me 12.99$
 

314631

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May 12, 2009
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No, the product is not good, nor is it innovative. The rechargeable battery market has been around for years: there are plenty of other (likely superior) chargers out there. The only "feature" this has is its reduced stand-by draw; but their claim can probably be disputed. Really, it looks to me that Apple is increasingly trying to exert their brand these days... A practice that vaguely reminds me of companies like Microsoft.

In your opinion.

I am not fan boy but I'm very excited to have an Apple supported product charge the batteries I use in my Apple devices. The stand-by draw feature is incredible in my mind. I'm always worrying about unplugging chargers soon after they have finished charging. And that's a big reason I don't use them. And the slim, sleek design will undoubtedly make it easy to plug into my multi-plug adaptors (unlike most chargers that are huge and difficult to use in 4-way/6-way/8-way adaptors).
 
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