All iPads Apple's expensive iPad Mini mistake

Discussion in 'iPad' started by blergh!, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. macrumors newbie

    Oct 23, 2012

    I'm so disappointed but I can see a mass exodus from the apple ecosystem coming up.

    The pricing of the mini was a major mistake for apple.

    32gb with 3g for $299 (£239)?!! Did they not see Google's trump card coming?

    Greed is still not good.
  2. macrumors 68000

    Mar 18, 2009
    I think Apple needs to hire you before they go out of business doing things the way they are.
  3. macrumors 68030

    Jun 19, 2010
    Ft Lauderdale
    I remember another forum saying the same thing about 8 years ago - when the stock was 90.....rave on....The mini will be a fine xmas gift for tons of people who don't give a sh** what macrumors geeks say....
  4. macrumors 68000

    Jan 14, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    i agree that it should've bee 299 for marketing reasons

    but it wasn't a huge mistake as they are sold out and there's a small delay

    there's always Nexus 7 and Fire as alternatives for everyone else
  5. macrumors member

    Oct 24, 2012
    There are rumors that Apple is going to discontinue the iPod Touch and introduce a $299/$289 iPad Mini 8GB model.

    I bet I'll get replies arguing with me over this when I never stated if I believed them. I'm just saying they exist.
  6. macrumors 65816

    Jul 29, 2010
    Don't buy it then. Problem solved!
  7. macrumors 601


    Sep 21, 2010
    Wake me up when that happens.

    In the meantime, Apple stock has earned me more money than I've ever spent on iDevices.
  8. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Oct 23, 2012
    What would it have taken to launch a 32gb ipad mini with gps and cellular for under $300??

    I'm telling you, the minis might be flying off the shelves right now but watch the long-term effect of their pricing.
  9. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 20, 2010
    If Apple made a 7" plastic POS, and priced it at $329, you could call greed. But they didn't. They have crafted a product, the quality of which, far outstrips anything the "competition" would ever even attempt.
  10. d123, Oct 29, 2012
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    macrumors 68000


    Oct 19, 2009
    What would it have taken to solve world famine? Or to control the weather?

    Answer? No one knows.

    It's as simple as this, if you don't like, or can't afford it, then you don't buy it.
  11. macrumors 6502

    Sep 15, 2010
    Ooh ooh....I know the answer to this...

    It would have taken another company who is subsidizing the price of that tech and selling at a loss or breaking even, because as we know, Apple would never do this. They make great products, that surprisingly enough, cost money. You can belittle them for not being willing to lose money or break even, but in the end, not many here will really sympathize with you on that. Great R&D costs money.
  12. macrumors 68040


    Apr 10, 2008
    I'm sorry man but you're just wrong about this. Yes many people feel it should have been cheaper... and yes Apple had an opportunity to really crush the nexus and the kindle fire.... But they are still going to sell a ton of these. The holidays are coming up and then Apple will release a new version with retina display, and upgraded internals and they will sell a bunch more. I'm not a fanboy and I'm not defending Apple but you're just off on this one.
  13. macrumors 6502

    May 18, 2011
    corner starbucks
    the price will never change, just like it hasn't for the original ipad...
    the specs will just continue to get better.
    i'll get one, sell my transformer or my nexus to pay it down, then when the 3rd gen comes out i'll give this one away like i always do

    and if apple genuinely made a marketing mistake with the mini they will roll with the punch and come back swinging with another project
  14. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Oct 23, 2012
    Another thing... they made a big play about education and the ipad's place in that.

    There is no educational discount for iPad minis!!

    The apple has bitten off more than it can chew.

    I don't want to buy competitors products... I am getting to the stage where apple have pushed me away with expensive underspecced gear.
  15. macrumors 6502

    Dec 6, 2007
    You're wrong.

    To have an eco-system a person must have multiple Apple devices. You're saying that if the iPad Mini isn't a success, a person is going to drop their whole eco-system? Riggggggght.

    "Hey, my iPad mini sucks. I guess I'll ditch the eco-system and throw out my iMac, Airport Extreme, Airport Express, AppleTV's, IPad and iPhone."
  16. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Oct 23, 2012
    ...because up until now they have shown innovation, cutting-edge performance and specs.

    This time it's a fail though.
  17. macrumors 68030

    May 3, 2010
    You're being unrealistic. Neither Google nor Amazon expects to profit from this pricing because they're not hardware companies, it was just their attempt to get traction in the marketplace. I used this analogy elsewhere but it's apropos. If a gas station decides to give away travel mugs to customers as an inducement to come in and buy gas it doesn't mean that the market price that stores that sell travel mugs have to match is zero.

    You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. Apple's not about products flying off the shelves at cost or just above cost. It's not sustainable.
  18. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Oct 23, 2012

    Ditto... which is exactly why I'm disappointed. I wanted a small iPad that fitted in with that ecosystem but with cutting-edge technology at a decent price.

    That's my point. The mini isn't good enough.
  19. macrumors 6502

    May 18, 2011
    corner starbucks
    based on?
    i'll hold out until i have one in my hands then i'll vote with my wallet
    it seems i can still stream from the mini to my atv so that suits me just fine
  20. macrumors 6502a

    Jun 20, 2010
    I wanted a small iPad that fitted in with that ecosystem but with cutting-edge technology at a decent price, too.

    I bought one, because that's precisely what Apple did.
  21. macrumors 68000

    Jan 14, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    if it's fail, then buy a nexus 7
  22. macrumors 68030

    May 3, 2010
    You're obviously defining "cutting edge" as having superior specs on all counts. While it's clear that it's what drives you there's an enormous market of people out there who evaluate the overall experience and comfort in using the device. I cannot tell you how many idiotic questions I get nearly daily from friends and coworkers with iPads about the most basic functions of their devices. Never ever have I heard someone say "why isn't the processor/display better/faster/clearer....?"

    It drives you but you're in a very small minority.

    One more thing: my wife has had her iPad 1 since it's been released and absolutely loves it. Has never even expressed interest in a newer one because it does everything she needs. Which is why she loves it - because it's exactly as easy to use as her iPhone so she doesn't have to re-learn a single thing.
  23. thread starter macrumors newbie

    Oct 23, 2012
    I agree I'm in a minority. Hence posting on this site and not the discussions taking place on the national newspaper sites ;)
  24. macrumors 601


    Sep 21, 2010
    It doesn't appeal to me, therefore it's a failure!

    That is such a strange thought. There are 7 billion people in the world. A product doesn't have to appeal to all of them. Sell to just a tiny fraction of that population, and you've sold millions.

    The defining feature of the current iPad is it's screen. This screen is so incredible that the vast majority of desktop monitors can't even match it, despite being twice as large. A lot of compromises were made in order to deliver this screen. The iPad became thicker, heavier, and slower. It takes much longer to charge and it cannot charge with the screen on. But if you want that glorious screen, iPad is the way to go.

    The defining feature of the iPad Mini is it's thinness, weight, and screen size. Despite having a screen that's 35% larger than competitor's 7" tablets, it is thinner and lighter than those competitors. It also has its compromises, the resolution for example. I didn't pick up an iPad Mini despite anxiously waiting for one for a long, long time. But I'm not so ignorant as to think it won't appeal to others... LOTS of others. I don't particularly like Justin Bieber either, but plenty of other people do.

    It reminds me a lot of the basic 6" Kindle. It wasn't color, couldn't run apps, and had no backlight. I thought it was a piece of crap based on those specs, I figured I'll just get a tablet and use the Kindle app. But then I used a Kindle. It was miraculously lightweight... and the battery just wouldn't die. It was more comfortable to hold than any paperback in any kind of reading position. None of this would have been true with a tablet, despite the tablet looking a lot better feature-wise. But that's the point, the e-ink is the trump card. The Kindle can't do anything else, but it does books WAY WAY better than anything else.

    I definitely see the appeal of a premium 7" tablet that's super thin and light, with a screen 35% larger than the competition.
  25. macrumors G4

    Oct 14, 2005
    When educational institutions (i.e. universities, school districts, etc) buy in quantity from Apple, you can be sure they almost always get discounts.

    Like the special $999 "budget" iMac Apple made only for educational institutions, not every Apple educational discount gets published publicly on the "Education" part of their online store.

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