No, its more like the Pro customers have been waiting two years for the new machine to be released and are now buying en masse.
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No, its more like the Pro customers have been waiting two years for the new machine to be released and are now buying en masse.
Judging soley by what I've seen at the Apple store a few times since it went on display, lot's of people don't want one. I was the only one who checked it out the few times I was there.
They are loosing money? They are doing something "new" ( supply == demand for iPhone upgrade for last 2-3 years) ?
They weren't dropping the ball already when the Mac Pro was pulled from the EU market because it was too old ?
This is standard Apple Marketing to create a launch context of scarcity so they will have folks up at 3 a.m. (or whatever hour) on launch day with credit cards ready to buy something with no solid reviews or opportunity to evaluate. ..... and still sell millions of dollars of product.
It isn't going to kill anyone to wait a several weeks to buy one. [ If a business crtical system the old one should still be working. and if is way toooooo old then it isn't Apple's fault it hasn't been replaced previously. ]
Not really. Apple has more likely selected a factory that can deal with the relatively (to most other Macs ) volume they are going to produce over a year. So if have a factory that can make 6-8K units per month and the initial demand bubble is 10K units per month they'll be a bit behind the curve for about 2-3 months.
The first 20K units aren't as big of an issue of the overall 60-90K going to sell all year. Apple has a "how many do you efficiently sell in a year " issue not a "how many can you sell in 4 weeks" issue.
Apple is probably going to sell more iMacs in 1-2 months than Mac Pros all year.
Mac Pro isn't in the same volume league as the iMac let alone the iPhone. The iOS devices are in a totally different zip code. They have little to nothing to do with Mac ecosystem resource allocation. Mac Pro hasn't particularly competitive with its cohorts. No need to go off looking in the iOS ecosystem.
surprised to see so much demand for such a high priced desktop. in a world where phones and tablets are what everyone wants, here is a nice mix-up. except it's really expensive.
I think it's less that this thing is insanely popular, more that Apple underestimated how many pros they had waiting for this update. It's been so long since Apple issued a serious update to the pro, perhaps they don't really have any good statistics on the matter.
We'll see whether Apple misjudged it or not depending on future sales.
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Obviously not everyone wants one, but by your "experiment", lots of people don't check out the iMacs either. People in Apple stores mostly browse the iOS devices or the laptops.
Most of us spending $6-12K on a Mac have business accounts with Apple and don't walk into Apple Stores to pick one up. Not to say that never happens, but I always have high end gear shipped directly from Apple and most folks I know using high end Macs do the same.
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It's a different market. In fact ironically, for a long time it was one of Apple's main markets, 'graphics and video pros'. The market to which you refer is the relatively new one, the post iPhone paradigm shifting event.
The only issue with getting it online if something does go wrong you have to deal with online sales. you can't just go into your local store.
Regarding the iPhone/iPad comments. Most people seem to forget as the iOS devices get faster.. you need something magnitudes faster to actually create content for them. The Mac pro is that.
Except that Feb 29th doesn't exist
He didn't say which year
. There is a Feb 29th in 2016.This is hardly surprising giving the pent up demand for these machines but its unlikely to continue for too long. There is a still a very small market for these devices and I suspect Apple have facilities that are adequate to cope with demand once the initial rush is oveer. After all there is no point in building a huge factory to make these things when you are only going to have to mothball half of it after six months when initial demand dies down.
Not that surprising ....
The majority of walk in customers at Apple retail stores are people needing help with or accessories for an iPhone. Then you've got a lot of people shopping for notebook computers and iPads.
That leaves only a relatively small minority who come in interested in any desktop form-factor machine -- and a big part of this crowd is going to be looking at the iMac.
The Mac Pro was NEVER really looked at very often in the stores, as evidenced by the small amount of shelf space dedicated to it.
I think what we're seeing here, really, is Apple not producing very large numbers of the new Mac Pros to begin with. They're building them in the USA, for starters. Labor is more expensive, and doubly so if they have to pay workers overtime pay or pay differentials for working later shifts. So I wouldn't be surprised if the factory shuts down by 5PM each day. Additionally, you're dealing with pent up demand right now, which will fade away as soon as all the existing pre-orders get filled. I don't know that Apple is interested in tooling up the factory to produce huge numbers of these systems just to meet initial demand more quickly, only to have excess, unused capacity sitting there after that?
The majority of walk in customers at Apple retail stores are people needing help with or accessories for an iPhone. Then you've got a lot of people shopping for notebook computers and iPads.
That leaves only a relatively small minority who come in interested in any desktop form-factor machine -- and a big part of this crowd is going to be looking at the iMac.
The Mac Pro was NEVER really looked at very often in the stores, as evidenced by the small amount of shelf space dedicated to it.
I think what we're seeing here, really, is Apple not producing very large numbers of the new Mac Pros to begin with. They're building them in the USA, for starters. Labor is more expensive, and doubly so if they have to pay workers overtime pay or pay differentials for working later shifts. So I wouldn't be surprised if the factory shuts down by 5PM each day. Additionally, you're dealing with pent up demand right now, which will fade away as soon as all the existing pre-orders get filled. I don't know that Apple is interested in tooling up the factory to produce huge numbers of these systems just to meet initial demand more quickly, only to have excess, unused capacity sitting there after that?
Well, assuming Apple is meeting the demand. On the other hand, there could be just a lack of supply due to moving the manufacturing back to the U.S.
That's just cuz other people aren't apple fanboys and don't care... They still want one they just don't know it.
Anyone have any indication of when these will hit the Apple Employee store? (I'm not an employee, I just know some that have graciously given me discounts in the past.)
No, what it means is that, like they do with EVERY product, Apple contracts for manufacturing capacity for the lifetime of the product, not for initial demand. It absolutely does not mean there is demand for this product that is in any way comparable to the iPhone, iPad, or even MacBook and iMac.
Yearly unit sales for the nMP? Maybe 100,000. Yearly sales for mobile devices? Tens of millions.
Difference between you and Apple? They know their market intimately. You don't.
We don't have official Apple Stores in Ireland, but the chap in iConnect( an official reseller), didn't have a clue about it when I asked.
I asked if they also had any webcams I could use with my Mac Pro, he stated they don't sell webcams because all Macs have them.
I told him the Mac Pro does, and he said "of course they do" while pointing at a MacBook Pro.
I think if you really need a Mac Pro you probably won't be dealing with resellers in a shop, you'd either order online for delivery, or at most a scheduled pick up at a store near you.
Wow! I didn't realise there was so many people able to part with so much $$$ for a computer, unfortunately it isn't me.
I was interested for 10min and then realised with all the "add-ons" it became a $6138.00 (6 Core, 32GB, only 512 storage).
One question I do have.
How much difference in performance would be between
a new base model MacPro (3.7 QuadCore Xeon, 16GB, 1TB SSD, Dual AMD FirePro D300/2GB) and my current MacBook Pro Retina 15 (2.6 QuadCore i7, 16GB, 1TB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M/2GB) ?
I was interested for 10min and then realised with all the "add-ons" it became a $6138.00 (6 Core, 32GB, only 512 storage).
One question I do have.
How much difference in performance would be between
a new base model MacPro (3.7 QuadCore Xeon, 16GB, 1TB SSD, Dual AMD FirePro D300/2GB) and my current MacBook Pro Retina 15 (2.6 QuadCore i7, 16GB, 1TB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M/2GB) ?
You can judge it any way you like. My comment was quite clear and not a general statement by any means. I posted what I have personally seen and specifically stated so.
It depends on what you do with your computer. For many things you wouldn't noticed a difference.