Apple's New A6X iPad Chip Adopts PowerVR SGX 554MP4 Graphics

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    AnandTech reports on an examination of the A6X chip found in the fourth-generation iPad. The work, performed by Kishonti Informatics, reveals that Apple has adopted Imagination Technologies' quad-core PowerVR SGX 554MP4 graphics in the new chip.
    Unsurprisingly, the SGX 554MP4 represents a significant improvement over the quad-core SGX 543MP4 used in the A5X chip of the third-generation iPad and the triple-core SGX 543MP3 used in the A6 chip of the iPhone 5.

    A full suite of graphics benchmarks reveals improvements of 15-100% compared to the third-generation iPad, with frame rates in the Egypt HD benchmark jumping from 25 frames per second (fps) on the third-generation iPad to nearly 52 fps on the fourth-generation iPad.
    The A6X is one of several enhancements to the fourth-generation iPad, including a new FaceTime HD camera and Apple's new Lightning connector, although the device appears nearly identical to its predecessor from the outside.

    Article Link: Apple's New A6X iPad Chip Adopts PowerVR SGX 554MP4 Graphics
  2. macrumors 68020


    Mar 16, 2012
  3. macrumors regular


    Mar 21, 2012
    Florida, USA
  4. macrumors G5


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    I wonder what the constraints are concerning power. Also, if, having 2x 543 cores gives 19.2 GFLOPS of compute GPU power, why didn't Apple opted for a single core 554 that has the same specs as two 543s in their A6 chip? There are no differences in core count, bandwidth, compute, or anything else. Eliminate a core, deliver greater performance no?
  5. macrumors 68030


    Jul 30, 2010
    Glasgow, Scotland
    Wow, Angry Birds is going to be blinding on this model!
  6. macrumors member

    Sep 4, 2012
    Considering this is one of the fastest Apple products to be discontinued...they should offer a $100 trade-in upgrade program for the 4th gen iPad or SOMETHING. It would create goodwill among the hardcore base, and then they could take customers' iPad 3's which are in perfectly good condition and slap them on the refurb store. It would such easy money lining Apple's pockets, I don't know why they don't do this.
  7. macrumors regular

    Mar 3, 2011
    Hope games like Infinity Blade Dungeons got pushed back because they recognize the graphics potential of the ipad 4 (What ever you call it)
  8. macrumors 68000


    Mar 5, 2011
    Hopefully we'll see a similar performance upgrade in the 5th generation :p
  9. macrumors 68000

    Mar 18, 2009
    I've owned an iPad 3rd gen since launch and think this is awesome news.

    I like what they've done to update the iPad, and it doesn't mean mine will suddenly stop working.
  10. macrumors 603


    Aug 2, 2002
    Cork, Ireland.
    Incredible improvements in performance... From a gaming perspective, it'll be interesting to see how these compare with current-gen consoles, considering they're on ~10 year upgrade cycles and the iPad's last iteration lasted about 6 months.
  11. macrumors G5


    Nov 25, 2005
    And someone posted here that he bought an iPad 3, because of the rumour that the iPad 4 graphics would be slower...
  12. macrumors 603


    Oct 29, 2007
    Could be greater. Rogue will be ready this time next year. 4 core variants hit ps3 and Xbox 360 numbers.
  13. macrumors 68020


    Mar 16, 2012
    I remember that exactly, they said the iPad 4 would be slower because the A6 chip would only have a triple GPU
  14. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 10, 2006
    Anand's chart is kind of misleading because he is focusing on ALU performance which incidentally is the main thing that changes between the SGX554MP and SGX543MP. When you go from a SGX543MP2 to a SGX543MP4 everything doubles including the ALU, TMU and ROP count. Going from the SGX543MP to SGX554MP only the ALU count doubles. As such, the 2x performance increase from A5X to A6X is very nuanced. Due to doubled ALU count and a small clock speed increase, the theoretical ALU increase for shaders is actually greater than 2x. However, the ROP count has not increased and so fill rate has only increased modestly due to clock speed only, which means that on a raw pixel pushing measure, the iPad 4 still hasn't fully accounted for the 4x increase in pixel count over the iPad 2. And so compared to the iPad 3, developers can't just double everything but will have to be more selective over how and what graphical effects they increase.

    For the iPhone 5, since the resolution didn't increase significantly over the previous iPhones, Apple probably could have used a SGX554MP2 to double ALU performance over the iPhone 4S and use a small clock speed bump for a modest increase in fill rate to account for the increased resolution. However, risk may have been an issue. The iPhone 5 had to ship this fall and with an already new CPU architecture, going with a tried and true SGX543MP design was the safer option. The iPad 4 was already a bit of a surprise and didn't necessarily have to ship this year since there several iDevices that continue to use the 30-pin connector anyways, so Apple had some flexibility to take additional risk with the SGX554MP in the A6X.
  15. macrumors member

    Oct 23, 2012
    Exynos 5250

    It would be very interesting to see a side by side comparison of how the A6X compares to the new Samsung Exynos 5250
  16. macrumors 6502a


    Jun 23, 2005
    More to the point, look where the Nexus 10 sits on all these charts. I appreciate that it's pushing a lot of pixels but the experience it delivers is consistently worse than the new iPad, the iPhone and, more often than not, the 3rd gen iPad too. Plus its battery was woeful on the Engadget review.

    People might be knocking Apple but their products are still at the bleeding edge performance wise.
  17. macrumors 65816


    What about iPhone 5 owners?

    I might hold on to my 4s a little longer.
  18. macrumors 65816


    Jun 16, 2006
    Lost Angeles, Ca. usa
    At this point this is my choice: wait six/seven months and await the next generation iPad and if nothing was released wait another six/five months.
  19. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 10, 2006
    Anand's comparison already includes the Nexus 10 with Exynos 5250 and Mali-T604. The A6X and SGX554MP4 are ahead decisively.
  20. macrumors 6502a

    Dec 12, 2010
    they wont compare until apple offers an official proper controller cause the touch screen control are useless in most good games..
  21. macrumors 604

    Mar 29, 2008
    Why would iPhone 5 users be crying? The 5 is noticeably, noticeably faster than the 4S. The iPad 3 wasn't at all noticeably faster than the iPad 2 (heck, I didn't think it was at all faster). It comes as no surprise that Apple would refresh it.

    The iPhone 5's GPU doesn't need to be anywhere near the speed of iPad 4's, since it's not pushing anywhere near that number of pixels.
  22. macrumors 6502a

    Aug 4, 2011
    The ipad 4 sounds more awesome everyday. But if you buy the ipad 4, you'd only feel as bad when the slimmed down ipad 5 arrives. Nothing but heartaches in the tech game.
  23. macrumors regular

    Feb 26, 2011
    No tears :D

    ipad3 is a great product.
  24. macrumors G3


    Mar 20, 2003
    San Francisco
    Huh? iPhone 5 has far fewer pixels to push. It doesn't need nearly the graphics performance that the iPad does.
  25. macrumors member

    Mar 24, 2011
    Soooo -
    iPad 5 will probably bring a new pretty design, with similar (maybe slightly better internals). So people will cry - I want pretty design. But then iPad 6 willl come with new internals (A7x?) etc etc, and people will cry - but my iPad 5 was outdated when it came out!!!.

    I am a happy iPad 3 owner - will consider the 5 when it comes out. Why - because 99% of apps will work fine on the iPad 3 for the next year or so, after all the Mini is just now out on a A5 base, and iPad 3 is about the same speed as the mini (considering A5x + retina). So I am not expecting any issues for the next 15 months or so. And I am on a 24 month refresh cycle.


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