Apple's Next-Generation A8 Chip Said to Top 2 GHz, Remain Dual-Core

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Besides a larger display, Apple's upcoming iPhone 6 also may feature a faster A8 processor that pushes the system-on-a-chip beyond the 2.0 GHz threshold, claims GforGames citing Chinese media source cnBeta [Google Translate].

    A7 transistor die photo from Chipworks
    According to the latest information, Apple will reportedly increase the CPU frequency of its next-generation SoC to 2.0 GHz or higher per core, up from the 1.3 GHz (iPhone 5s and Retina iPad mini) or 1.4 GHz (iPad Air) of the A7 processor. The chip will keep the 64-bit, dual-core architecture of the current generation A7 CPU, but will be manufactured with a 20-nm process instead of the A7's 28-nm. TSMC and Samsung are thought be the primary manufacturers that are producing the A8 chip for Apple's upcoming iOS devices.

    Though competing phones ship with quad-core processors, Apple's possible decision to stay with a dual-core design may be the result of the company using a custom-designed chip optimized for iOS and not an off-the-shelf solution. This optimization already has been shown in the current dual-core A7, which offers "desktop class" performance that outperforms other players in the mobile phone marketplace. In its detailed analysis of the A7 after launch, AnandTech found that even though the A7's performance is top-notch, there was still room for improvement as almost no iOS app took full advantage of A7's available processing power.

    Article Link: Apple's Next-Generation A8 Chip Said to Top 2 GHz, Remain Dual-Core
  2. macrumors 6502

    Jul 29, 2010
    More than enough power for a phone. Although they'll scream they still want "quad core" ask them why?
  3. macrumors regular

    Mar 9, 2012
    Dualcore is still fine, just give us 2GB RAM this time! :confused:
  4. macrumors 6502

    Mar 2, 2007
    I too find the A7 chip fast enough. What they need to do is add more ram as that would add the most noticeable performance input.
  5. macrumors 68040


    Nov 2, 2007
    Los Angeles
  6. macrumors 601


    Sep 15, 2011
    Vilano Beach, FL
    A new phone with a faster processor? A processor name that’s one higher than the previous model? This is MADNESS!
  7. macrumors 6502


    Mar 18, 2010
  8. macrumors member


    Apr 30, 2014
    waters of Thailand
    "almost no iOS app took full advantage of A7's available processing power" -Anandtech

    That's coz developers are still focused on supporting all previous hardware to have the biggest market possible for more profits. Its only logical. But kudos to Apple for continuing with their processor roadmap. I hope this leads credence to more planned features like "desktop class" enhancements and eminent merging a few months from now. Mobile Era.
  9. macrumors 601


    Mar 11, 2013
    This seems impressive. I trust Apple to make these decisions so I won't complain about dual vs quad and whatever.

    BUT, at just a glance I thought the title said "A8 to feature 2GB of RAM" and was like YES!
  10. macrumors 6502a


    Jun 24, 2013
    rumors indicate 4GB :eek:
  11. macrumors 6502

    Dec 14, 2010
    No need for quad core in phones or tablets. Dual core and 2GB-4GBs of ram is perfect. Give us more battery life...
  12. macrumors regular

    Nov 18, 2007
    Springfieldvilletownvilleton, Missouri
    That can only mean!!

    . . . it will still be clocked down to 1.4GHz and have 1GB RAM :rolleyes:
  13. macrumors 601


    Dec 8, 2011
    East Central Florida
    No way!
  14. macrumors regular


    Jul 16, 2013
    The Netherlands
    Just give it 16GB of RAM to shut people up for the next years to come..
  15. macrumors member


    Apr 30, 2014
    waters of Thailand
    lol. This!!!
  16. macrumors regular

    Dec 18, 2013
    I've never felt that I need more CPU power on my iOS devices thus far while using iPhone 5 and iPad Mini Retina. I couldn't care less about the CPU performance since it will be more than enough than I'll ever need. I do however feel the need for RAM. Please Apple, get with the times and give us at least 2GB of RAM so Safari doesn't have to crash all the time.
  17. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 18, 2010
    This make me feel so funny inside when I hear android phones sporting quad and octa cores and still inefficient as hell. I'm not saying android phones are slow. I'm saying they're very inefficient in their use of resources and try to make up for it with too many cores!
  18. macrumors 68020


    Apr 29, 2012
  19. macrumors 68020


    Sep 22, 2009
    FINALLY some specs. The past year has been part leaks over and over and over. Finally something different.
  20. macrumors regular

    Dec 3, 2013
    I am not a familiar with CPU tech, but have some though about it.
    PS3's chip was said to have so much power that not even the latest games take full advantage of the computing power of the chip.
    On the other hand, frame rate drop when a horde of zombies chase after me. Clearly, PS3 system had bottle neck somewhere.
    How many cores, 64 bit, how much ram, system overhead, such and such are all ear candies.
    I would say, it seems apple is making a wise movement to stay with 2 cores, thinner fabrication, and probably more RAM.
    The important key is, zombies can chase after me without making short distance teleportations.
  21. macrumors 65816

    May 1, 2012
    I think we're at the point where iOS hardware is outpacing the software. A8 will be wicked fast (approaching Macbook Air speeds in terms of raw processing power), but there are very few apps that can even use the A7 to its full potential.
  22. macrumors 601


    Sep 15, 2011
    Vilano Beach, FL
  23. macrumors 6502

    Jun 23, 2012
    While there is much to celebrate about the increase in performance and the obvious lower power consumption from die shrink, I would prefer Apple upgrade the architecture combined with a slight increase in clock speeds. This will not only bring even more significant power savings from the new architecture, but the slight increase in clock speeds could bring increasing returns to scale on performance. This, combined with the 20nm manufacturing process, would make the A8 the most powerful chip yet. Perhaps even more than the upcoming Snapdragon 810.
  24. macrumors 603

    Michael Goff

    Jul 5, 2012
    You mean the MBA from 2009, right? Yeah, it is definitely approaching those speeds.
  25. macrumors 6502

    Jun 24, 2012

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