Appleworks or OpenOffice or M$ Office

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  1. jigglyjon macrumors member

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    Which office suite program do you use?
    I cant decide which is better. I know OpenOffice uses X11 and from what i have experienced, it is not as fast as i would like it. And M$ Office is laughably slow on the Mac. And Appleworks needs to get an update to work and look like all the iPrograms. What does everyone think?!:D
     
  2. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    MS Office (but I'm holding my nose)

    I ended up buying MS Office. I'd used OpenOffice extensively on both my Linux box and on Windows, but unfortunately it just isn't quite there yet - especially when it comes to MS Office document compatibility. Seemingly simple things like bulleted lists in a Word document would cause issues when opened in OO.

    If you are totally anti-MS, for a word processor I'd suggest using Abiword (version 2 or newer). Much faster than OO, and better compatibility with Word. For a spreadsheet look for a port of Gnumeric. That was one app I ran on my Linux box that always seemed to measure up. (well okay Mozilla too; but we're talking office apps here)
     
  3. jigglyjon thread starter macrumors member

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    tru tru...sometimes you just cant get away from Bill and his crapgrams....;)
     
  4. ColoJohnBoy macrumors 65816

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    Just go with Microsoft Office. As much as I hate to say it, it really is the best product of its kind out there. If you do buy it, get it through the Apple Online education store so you can get the discount (whether you're a student or not) - that way you're giving the minimal amount of money to MS.
     
  5. revenuee macrumors 68020

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    Re: Appleworks or OpenOffice or M$ Office


    i disagree, i think it runs fine on the mac... Plus it is easily compatible with with PC Office, which was a huge selling point for me - i need to interact with windows users all the time
     
  6. sahnert macrumors 6502

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    I use a the newest appleworks that I bought for a reasonable price and it works for everything i've ever needed to do. true it is not totally compatible with Word as far formatting and such, but i haven't had any major problems. I don't think Word is worth the $100+ for most uses.
     
  7. Horrortaxi macrumors 68020

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    Re: Appleworks or OpenOffice or M$ Office

    MS Office is slow? How does a word processor run slowly? You type a character and it appears on the screen. It's not as if it has to render your work like Photoshop or Premiere. I suppose some of the characteristic MS bloat could get in the way. I haven't had any problems with it--apart from tripping over some of the "features".

    I've used OpenOffice in Windows and like it. On the Mac you get slapped with a command line, which is intimidating to a lot of people.

    Appleworks is good but there's something about it I don't like. I think it's just the looks actually. It looks old. I know that's superficial and has nothing to do with functionality but a lot of people feel the same way.

    I have all 3, but the one I use is MS Office. As much of a Microsoft hater as I am, I have to be compatible with other people and they'll be using Office. It's bloated, but not usually a pain to use.
     
  8. mac15 macrumors 68040

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    Until apple provides a good alternate, you can't beat M$ Office. Its a standard that won't be beat for some time. Every place I know , weither it be work or school they use Microsoft Office and to be honest I think the mac version is pretty damn good. I really can't wait for the next revision of it myself.
     
  9. revenuee macrumors 68020

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    If it works for you, thats great, you just saved yourself 100$ that can be spend on something else...

    Me, i work with people who's computer skills end on turning on MSN, and running Word ... if i send them a file that has a formating problem, their going to bitch and complain about it .... it was an extra 100$ spent for piece of mind ... LOL :D
     
  10. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Re: Appleworks or OpenOffice or M$ Office

    Unless you require some of Word's more exotic features, it is likely that TextEdit will satisfy your word processing needs. TextEdit can open, edit, and save M$ Word documents. TextEdit's default format is .rtf, which is transparent to your Windows Weenie friends.
     
  11. sahnert macrumors 6502

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    Good point. If you have a hard time with basic computer functions Word would definitely help with the hassles of dealing with "the rest of the world"
    I'm sorry for those that have to shell out loads of cash just for this minor convenience. Especially when those people won't need or don't know how to use the majority of the features you are paying for in Word.
    I wish Apple would update to work seamlessly with MS and maybe surpass it in practical functionality.
    (I also wish Apple or anyone would make a perfect computer and by perfect I mean perfect. But hey...)
    and on a tangent I wish appleworks would have been bundled with my PB, but I realize why it's not. Same reason they didn't put OttoMatic on here I assume.

    By the way I also have tried a program called MarinerWrite which as I recall works well and I don't think had any (few?) compatibility issues with Word. I was just running a demo (albeit full featured) for 30 days and only used it a couple of times. But it is also reasonably priced.
     
  12. LimeLite macrumors 6502a

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    But the Office student edition. You don't have to actually be enrolled in a school to get it, and it's less than half the price of the standard edition.
     
  13. Westside guy macrumors 601

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    Yup, unfortunately

    Yes, and there's the reality of dealing with an MS-centric world when it comes to word processing and spreadsheets.

    Thing is, I agree that Office is something that Microsoft got right... at one point. When I used to use Office 95 on Windows, I thought it was a killer app. But with the need to add "new and improved" functionality to drive new sales (a mindset that's not limited to Microsoft), I think they've diluted it somewhat, bloated it significantly - and worse, the new additions have been mostly to blame for the security issues in Word et. al.

    But anyway, the Mac platform folks over at MS have generally shown a talent for putting out software that's better than the corresponding PC counterpart IMHO.
     
  14. jonapete2001 macrumors regular

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    go with office. Every time i try to save a document from apple works in the word format apple works crashes and my document is deleted!!!
     
  15. stcanard macrumors 65816

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    That's why I send everything in PDF. No worries about what word processing program people have installed, or formatting problems due to different fonts, printer setups or whatever.

    PDF is the only commonly used format I've seen where I can 99% guarantee they will see what I'm sending. I've seen too many MS Word problems where I'm running Word XP, they've got 2000 or 98, or vice versa.

    And it gives me complete choice for what I use to create it!
     
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    Hmm, thats some good advice... thanks a lot
     
  17. Coca-Cola macrumors 6502

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    I use Nisus writer express, but I think Abiword is probably better looking, and cheaper. 25 dollars, Deal.
    Apple works feels old. I really want to love appleworks, but it's old. Not too cool.
    MS office is good looking and probably works fine. It's just so damn big. I do need an excel type program as well as a writing program.....Abiword and some other shareware tool. Hmmm. Damn, I don't want to give MS any money. And I really don't want to use that damn powerpoint. We have Keynote, Yeah.
    Hmmm. Abiword and......?

    Nisus writer is nice, Can you say "autosave" every five minutes. Open office is uggggglllllyyyyy! And is Sllllllllloooooooooowwwwww.

    I am not sure how I feel about an awesome office killer from apple. MS would try to kill them for sure. But then again, OS X could always just go X86 and kill them. Hmmm, interesting dilema.
     
  18. Makosuke macrumors 603

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    I'm agreeing with everybody in this thread; there isn't any singe solution--it all depends on what you want.

    In my (relatively extensive) cross platform experience, if you need to regularly go back and forth with Office (Word, really) documents, get Office. The Mac version isn't really that bad (better than the PC one, I'd wager), although it has some TERMINALLY stupid bugs that still aren't fixed.

    Likewise, if you're very used to Office, you'll probably be more comfortable with it. And, if you are one of the 1% of people who actually use the heavy-lifting features of Office (large-scale collaboration features in Word or the heavy duty calculation stuff in Excel, which I think is by far the best Office app), then spend the money and actually get what you're paying for.

    It does seem sad that Office is priced like a heavy-duty professional-scale application like Photoshop, and built like one (it's really a corporate collaboration suite set pretending to be a word processor), but 90% of the people only ever use Word out of the suite, and probably 98% of people never use even a tenth of the features they're paying hundreds of dollars for.

    Anyway, if your demands aren't as major and you don't move files around with other people much, Appleworks is probably plenty for you. I know plenty of people who are happy with it, and I mostly use it. The draw module of Appleworks has considerably better non-text layout tools than Word, too.

    But, if all you ever do is word processing, don't get either--check out the alternative little apps. Textedit is surprisingly capable (especially under Panther), but I recommend Mellel: it's only $25, feels very solid, has all the basic layout features (including tables), and has an interface that will be generally familiar to people used to Office X, but much cleaner and simpler. I really like it.
     
  19. QCassidy352 macrumors G3

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    Re: Re: Appleworks or OpenOffice or M$ Office

    actually, I sometimes have lag on MS word, i.e. I type a character and it doesn't appear for a few seconds (I have a new 12" PB so the computer isn't the problem). Word also quits for no reason on a regular basis.

    Appleworks is great, IMO, but the one thing I hate about it is that it won't scroll with my scroll wheel. Minor, but very annoying. Saving to word format always works fine for me, don't know why anyone would have problems with that.

    I just dont' see what's so great about word, aside from the fact that it's the standard. Most of its "features" are annoyances.
     
  20. hesitaliandad macrumors member

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    i know this won't solve the guy's problem, but i ran across this the other day. it's a version of openoffice that runs without X11. they use java i think (i'm not very programming savvy). it's still beta, but it works quite well. just follow the link to check it out. there are forums and stuff for help. i ditched the X11 openoffice for it. man, i love the open source community. i am truly amazed at the quality stuff that comes from them. a huge thanks to any open source programmers out there.

    NeoOffice/J
     
  21. Coca-Cola macrumors 6502

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    Those java people are crazy. Thanks for the link. Cool.
     

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