Are users getting tired of GB?Outgrowing it?

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by losackmd, Feb 20, 2004.

  1. losackmd macrumors member

    Jan 18, 2004
    I have yet to buy it.
    Would be interested in my ongoing research to know:

    If in the past month users have started to feel restricted,
    bored, limited by what GB does or cant do?

    Is the same enthusiasm people had over it still fresh and alive?

    Have any sold it or stopped using it?

    Does anyone have a clue if Apple is advancing this product i.e. responding to the wish list by many. Will there be version 2.0 someday?

    thanks for listening.
    gl :rolleyes:
  2. Kwyjibo macrumors 68040


    Nov 5, 2002
    GB isn't expensive, and you can't really sell your iLife package if you keep all the other programs installed. This being said the package as a whole is definately worth the cash and the best way to figure these things out is to try them
  3. Mlobo01 macrumors 6502

    Jan 23, 2003
    Weehawken New Jersey

    The application is advanced enough, but it cannot do it all for you, if you are a serious musician and have specific projects in mind GarageBand is not the app for you, you need either Logic or ProTools, but even so GB has plenty of stuff and techniques to go around, it all depends on the user, anyone can get tired of playing around with Photoshop, and worse if you don't understand the layers palette or even it's Image Ready counterpart. only when you have specific projects its when you get to discover its power. GB is not by any means the musical equivalent to PS its more like the PS Elements' equivalent, certain tools are going to be omitted, why? because its just a basic app that does not cost $50 but less than that on the account of the other upgrades, it cost <$150. if you buy JamPack with more loops, also you can make your own loops you can import AIFF files or one's own voice or singing, that I think its plenty.
    I think the app gets tired when a user just plays with the loops, but a friend of mine whos a DJ/producer uses Digital Performer on OS 8 on an old mac, he can make serious music easier with GB, and on the negative side I think it causes uncertainty in them (producers, musicians) on the account that its done with so much ease, so they must step-up the ante and compose something more complex in order to rationalize the expense of ProTools and other expensive apps. I know that GB might not be complete but its plenty for begginers to medium users for now but any upgrades in the future should be welcomed but not expected any time soon. Also anything of worth will take time no matter how easy it is to construct. so if you are looking to impress your friends its great but if you are looking to compose something nice take the time or learn musical notation and take it seriously and you will see your perspective about GB or any app change or shift.
    P.S. We can easily confuse an app with an entertainment program like Solitaire but it may not be so, think of it as a management app like iPhoto or iTunes, you see or manage your pics or listen/manage your music with iTunes, with GB you compose music for your slide shows or home movies hence the idea of bundleing it with iLife!
  4. logicat2001 macrumors regular

    Apr 16, 2003
    Minneapolis, MN
    ...or Ableton Live or Reason or Numerology or MetaSynth or Digital Performer or Cubase or Nuendo or SoundTrack or GarageBand or a four-track cassette recorder.

    Most importantly is passion, dedication, committment, patience, creativity, discipline, effort, etc.

    If you are serious musician and have specific projects in mind, go read through a few audio forums and think about what you're trying to produce. Then ask around, read reviews and play with demo software until you find an application that fits your requirements, your working style and your budget.

    Then forget about all the rest and produce your audio.

    As for losackmd's original questions, here are my responses:

    Q: If in the past month users have started to feel restricted, bored, limited by what GB does or cant do?

    A: That's a less than ideal metric to measure. Even someone working with ProTools or Logic (I work with both) is limited by what they can do.

    Q: Is the same enthusiasm people had over it still fresh and alive?

    Again, this has less to do with the software and more to do with an individual's attitude and passion for creating something. Suffice to say that there is a large community of individuals including "professionals", "semi-pros", "amateurs" and plug-in developers that are very excited about this application.

    Q: Does anyone have a clue if Apple is advancing this product i.e. responding to the wish list by many. Will there be version 2.0 someday?

    A: This is purely my speculation, but consider that Apple purchased an entire company dedicated to digital audio production, emagic. At NAMM a few weeks back they announced the repackaged version of Logic as well as previewed some new technologies that are going to be in future versions of their product.

    It is absolutely to their advantage to introduce as many potential customers to their audio platform. It will drive hardware sales and Logic software sales. They are definitely going to continue to advance this product.

  5. johnnyjibbs macrumors 68030


    Sep 18, 2003
    London, UK
    There are not really many limitations with GarageBand for the average to good non-pro musician. The only limit is your creativity, especially if you work around the processing power issue (which is only a problem if you have lots of complex tracks made up of software instruments and effects, but you can record them to a single AIFF track).

    Go get, it's well worth it, even just to tinker around with. It's a tool there to deliver your inspiration and dreams.
  6. ChrisH3677 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 6, 2003
    Victoria, Australia
    go visit MacIdol or any of the other hosting sites. I like MacIdol coz right from the first page, it gets you right in amongst the music and artists.

    Listen to the stuff there. There's some exceptional quality work there - and quite a few semi-pro musos and even a few pros.

    Also, get onto their forum and ask this same question.

    Personally, I have only been using standard GB and am still finding new loops and tricks.
    But I can't do that forever and will need to add extra loops and start recording own stuff into it.

    GB can't record multiple external inputs at once, but as a solo artist, that's fine. Which means GB is also a nifty multi-track recorder for soloists.

    The success of GB has probably exceeded Apple's expectations. I reckon they'll be working their butts off to keep developing it and getting the most out of this tidal wave.

    Grab shell, dude!

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