As Oscars Near, Hollywood Blasts Iraq War.

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  1. G4scott macrumors 68020

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12366-2003Mar22.html

    These celebrities are weird, and almost make me sick. They live in a bubble, protected by their millions, and have no real idea of what's going on. It's also like some canadian basketball player who denounced America for going to war. These guys really need to get a grip of reality... These guys are way too liberal...
     
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    Ah yes, I found it. This is an interesting tidbit I found online:

     
  3. NavyIntel007 macrumors 65816

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    Are they completely stupid? 76% of the American population supports this war and I'm willing to bet most, including me don't really give a rats big fat a-- what they think about the war. I hope that the oscars get the worst ratings they ever have so it sends a clear message to Hollywood... WE DON'T CARE!!!
     
  4. spony macrumors newbie

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    This is a great argument considering your opinion is ofcourse the manifestation of all that is true and just in this world. Thier political view must be some sort of illness.

    No but you know everything right? I see from your second post regardless of who's right or wrong resorting to violence will always solve the issue.

    Really constructive post, I learned a lot.
     
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    How many of todays club of actors have been in the military? How many have ran for public office? Not in the past, I'm talking all the mouth moving idiots of today. The fact of the matter is these people love to hear themselves speak (ever hang out with drama majors?). Their life experiences, or lack of, does not warrent their voice being heard on the matter. Especially when they have so much power to get in people's faces.
     
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    and how many of people in general have run for office or served in the military???

    i personally find some of the protesters' focus on bush and not on violence/war in general a bit annoying, as i think it should be less about bush and more about the general violence taking place.... because it'snot just bush behind it. though he certainly is the main proponent.

    the second post of this thread... the etiquette guide, is a joke. at least what i bothered to read of it. the first paragraph alone shows how stupid the whole thing will be. protesting against war against iraq is not protesting against bringing terrorists to justice. iraq's ties to terrorism aren't even as strong as saudi arabia's or many other nations... so good try there.

    just read the rest of the etiquette thing. funny. resort to violence rather than discussion. not surprising. some of the pro war folks are idiots
     
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    Right, but you're assuming that the ones that are in the military, the ones that are serving public office deserve to be demoralized by all of this? These actors wouldn't know what to do if they got a jury duty card...
     
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    Not to sound right-wing or anything but I think we're reaping the harvest of the liberal college campuses in this country. I thought you were supposed to be taught HOW to think at college not just what to think.
    I've had experiences with these people because I went to a liberal college. It boggles the mind. This is still a brutal world we live in and thugs like Saddam will never go away. Their policy? Hunker down and hope for the best. Don't piss them off and maybe they'll like us.
    Jesus freaking Christ!
    We gave this ****** every opportunity to cooperate and he's proven himself a nefarious, dastardly, conniving son of a bitch.
    Have these people forgotten what happened on 9-11? The postal anthrax attacks?
    Yes, we may have strategic interests of the oil resources of Iraq but we are an oil hungry nation. WE ARE. It's the very engine of our economy.
    You know these idiots will be crying when they have to pay more at the pump to get to their protest rallies.
    It's empathy run amuck. Also a zero ability to think logically.
    F*cking morons.
     
  9. beatle888 macrumors 68000

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    Re: As Oscars Near, Hollywood Blasts Iraq War.


    i just thought it would be nice for you all to read this post again. im sorry but it doesnt seem to be from someone who believes in freedom. this isnt ment to offend. i just think we need to respect each others opinions if we want to be a true america.
     
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    you assume they ARE demoralized by it... many people are appreciative of people expressing their opinions, even if they don't agree with them. believe it or not.

    also, you are assuming these people are dumb (the actors)... how dumb is that? don't get me wrong, many are. but plenty aren't.... nathalie portman goes to harvard. and many go to schools like columbia, nyu, etc... people like tim robbins are quite well spoken and intelligent. but hey, keep bashing. :rolleyes:

    ifeelbloated- the anthrax attacks were conducted by whom? well, last i know, the best lead we had was that it was someone on the inside... not an iraqi. so where's the connection? how many of the hijackers on september 11th were iraqi?

    you make some brilliant points amidst your broad generalizing attacks. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    I say we need to launch missles against the liberals that oppose up. I say whatever the white house wants GOES. And if you disagree, to damn bad.

    Let launch some cruise missles...nah to small scale... how about a nerve agent, yes, we will find anyone who speaks out and put an end to them RIGHT away. yes... excellent.

    How dare they they speak, HOW DARE THEY!
     
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    They have a voice in America and they use it. The left has Hollywood to voice their views once in awhile and the right has AM radio and Fox News to voice its opinion each and every weekday.

    Plus they control the House, Senate, White House and Supreme Court. Who make the decisions and are not just debating them.

    So begrudge the Hollywood elite for their views, but realise that, in perspective, they're pissing upriver to stop a flood.
     
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    your not using that as an argument for this war are you? if thats the case...well damn i crave a lot of things....does that give me the right to take it by force?
     
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    I think we've established in an earlier thread that "pro-war" is no longer applicable.

    The new term is "anti-peace" ;)
     
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    ok then. so you guys realize how crazy some of this pro war stuff is?

    ok ok, i thought you guys were serious. damn i was like what the hell.....these guys are a bunch of saddams themselves and they call liberals anti american :D
     
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    not everyone is kidding.... but i think myself, mrmacman, and pseudo agree with you in general

    correct me if i'm wrong
     
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    Try this then... I AM in the military and I AM demoralized by it. Feel better?
     
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    fair enough. but not everyone is. and that is not the intent of the protests.

    just as it's not the intent of the bombing to kill civilians, it does happen. likewise, it doesn't mean that these people are stupid, just that they disagree.

    sorry that you are demoralized, and let me just speak for myself that i personally am against the war precisely because i don't want to see death on our side or theirs. our servicemen don't need to die for this. and therefore, i feel i support you all just as strongly or moreso than warhawks

    ps. my dad was in the army for around 28 years (+- a few?). lived in korea for a couple years. my family lived in germany and england... so i'm not 100% detached.
     
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    By the way, saying that a degree from Harvard makes you smart is like saying a bible wielding preacher is always a saint. I know some pretty stupid people at Harvard.
     
  21. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3

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    yeah, of course. and bush went to an ivy league and look at him eh?

    however, saying that someone is stupid because someone is famous is even more off.
     
  22. beatle888 macrumors 68000

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    navy,

    one has to let others have their own opinions. and not be hostile about them. how can you expect everybody to believe in the same things? thats only going to happen in a saddam brand of government. i know you dont want that otherwise you wouldnt be so anti saddam.

    we can want our soldiers to come home safely and still be against the presidents motives. it is america. we have that right. if people were forced to believe in the same things as you or tortured for feeling differently, would you feel that would be a better america?

    its good that we tolerate each others points of views. we will learn more from each other.

    i, or any other that has a bit of a brain is not going to be swayed by negative general statements and bickering. there hasnt been one pro war argument on these forums that i would except because they tend to concentrate more on telling the anti war posters that they are stupid or anti american and weak liberals.

    to me that doesnt come across as intelligence. and it sort of discredits any valid points they were trying to make.
     
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    But just because they are famous and make a lot of money doesn't mean they have to try to express their opinions to influence the public all the time.
     
  24. jelloshotsrule macrumors G3

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    and yet you say that none have run for office? you seem to contradict yourself..

    also, should arnold schwarzenegger should also shut up about politics? and dennis miller? and other conservatives? or is it just the rich and famous liberals that can't speak their opinions in this free countr?
     
  25. beatle888 macrumors 68000

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    NOPE :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


    THAT RIGHT COMES WITH THEIR AMERICAN CITIZANSHIP.

    OH DAMN I GOTTA LEAVE THIS THREAD.


    LONG LIVE THE AMERICAN
     

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