AT&T Hits Back at T-Mobile with Up to $450 in Credits for Switchers

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    Over the past year,
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    T-Mobile US has been shaking up the U.S. carrier market with its "Un-carrier" plans, the addition of the iPhone to its device lineup, and a frequent device upgrade program, enticing several other major carriers to make changes to their own services to align with T-Mobile's offerings.

    Going beyond recent moves to uncouple device and service costs as T-Mobile has done, AT&T today announced that it is offering up to $450 in credits for customers switching to the carrier from T-Mobile. The offer consists of two parts: up to $250 for trading in their current smartphone as part of the carrier's usual trade-in plan and an additional $200 for transferring their wireless service to AT&T.
    Last month, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson noted that the long-standing U.S. wireless business model of carriers providing device subsidies in exchange for service contracts is no longer economically feasible. By uncoupling device costs from service, carriers believe they can offer customers more flexibility when it comes to deciding about device upgrades while still allowing customers to spread out their significant hardware costs through payment plans.

    Following last year's series of Un-carrier announcements from T-Mobile, the company is set to announce the next stage of its program next week at CES. Details have yet to surface, but hints and rumors have suggested that the carrier may be making some changes to encourage family plan users to switch carriers, perhaps through subsidizing early termination fees imposed by other carriers.

    The future of T-Mobile does, however, remain up in the air, as parent company Deutsche Telekom has been looking to exit the U.S. market. Following a failed attempt by AT&T to acquire T-Mobile US in 2011, Sprint has been reported to be mulling its own offer for T-Mobile that could allow the combined carrier to rival the much larger Verizon and AT&T.

    Update: In an email to Re/code, T-Mobile CEO John Legere calls AT&T's new offer a "desperate move".
    Update 2: T-Mobile has published a similar version of Legere's statement.

    Article Link: AT&T Hits Back at T-Mobile with Up to $450 in Credits for Switchers
     
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    Fail...

    Seems like too little too late... I guess no one is falling for the family shared plan. It actually would have raised our rates and given us less data.
     
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    well...

    Nice try ATT. but being a valued ATT customer who upgrades his phone every year and gets locked into a 2 year contract every year...I must say...if Tmobile offers a similar deal where they will reimburse the ETF, I will be waiting outside of an Tmobile store to switch !

    Now, in reality...IDK how much Tmobile is better than ATT or vise versa, but I doubt that's gonna make any major differences, plus I still have the grandfathered unlimited plan. To me, being able to upgrade to a new phone every year is much important than switching to another carrier...

    unless Tmobile is way better...is it?
     
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    New customers have to sign for mobile share plan at AT&T (this is the only option AT&T offers for new contracts).
    2GB Data + Unlimited talk and text = $95 before taxes. Compare it to $50 from T-Mobile. That's $45X24 months (contract) = $1080 - $450 credit = $630 or $315 loss per year for this move (pre tax).

    Every additional smartphone adds $40 to the plan and shares this 2GB, unlike T-Mobile where you get additional line with 2GB data for $40 (goes down by $10 for each additional line).
     
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    Well, T-Mobile must be doing something right if AT&T is this worried about them specifically.
     
  8. macrumors 6502

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    ATT why dont you have try loosening the reigns on your data pricing! DAMN. I have 8 lines with you and have had an account for 9 years, give me a reason to stay! Make me feel wanted.
     
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    Shucks! Just switched to ATT two weeks ago from T-Mobile!

    Had no issues with TMobile, voice was great, WiFi calling was great but their Data coverage sucked. I thought I could live with it as I already knew this from their coverage map. But I couldn't!

    TMobile, other than these tricks... increase your coverage!
     
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    As a long term AT&T customer, I would have switched to T-Mobile a long time ago if I could get decent coverage.

    The $450 credit for customers is a very bad deal. You have to hand in your old smartphone for only $250 & buy another from AT&T at full price using their Next program. It would be cheaper if you just kept your old smartphone. AT&T will always find a way to screw you over.
     
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    Wow. Big AT&T is running scared of little T-Mobile. Looks like TMO is definitely doing something right for AT&T to aim this at them specifically. Gotta love this competition among the carriers.
     
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    FU att, how about a good deal for your current subscribers? line better pricing for out of contract plans, rollover data, etc.
     
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    However all this will be nothing once DT says "See Ya!" to T-Mobile US. Once that happens nothing will stop the fall of T-Mobile.
     
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    LOL, American mobile operators suck.

    :D

    (Disclaimer: I am currently a T-Mobile USA prepaid customer.)
     
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    AT&T has so much revenue, don't even know why they are playing with t-mobile.
     
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    Because profit margin is important to shareholders and postpaid smartphone users are typically the most profitable consumer customers.

    But don't just take my word blindly, go read AT&T's SEC filings.
     
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    Because they can. On another note, I don't really understand the hate towards 2 year contacts and subsidized equipment. Am I the only one that thinks it is totally fine? Buy AppleCare + and sell your phone at the end of 2 years and you will never really have to pay out of pocket for a phone. T-Mobile plans seem great, but I think people are in for a rude awakening when they start upgrading their phones all the time and end up being broke. Just my $0.02
     
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    I left ATT for TMobile back in April and couldn't be happier. Started off with the Uncarrier plan and then switched to the $30/month prepaid plan a few months back. ATT would probably have to a lot more if I were to ever switch back.
     
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    Yeah, same with me and Verizon. The credits are nice, but don't offset the fact that I get unlimited data for a lot less than what they'd charge for 4GB/mo and limited minutes.
     
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    x1000.

    T-Mobile can be cutting all their margins as thin as they want, but it only hurts themselves. Having Legere as their puppet doesn't cost them much, but network upgrades do. They can't afford to improve their network if they keep lowering prices and letting everyone onto their network.
     
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    If AT&T hadn't recently jacked up for the services packages I might consider switching back to them from T-Mobile. Their 3GB data package w/ 450 anytime minutes was always more than enough for me but now they've gone the way of Verizon their price has gone way up. $110/month w/ 4GB of data, no thanks!

    AT&T is going to lose customers to T-Mobile over this, especially if T-Mobile announces they will pay off their competitions ETFs as they are expected to do next week their gonna really get hit hard!

    AT&T & Verizon better get with the program soon...
     
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    I would have switched to TMobile if the coverage was a bit better. I did get both my iPad Air and iPad mini setup with TMobile and when it works, it works well. But get spotty coverage sometimes.

    The one change I really want from AT&T is to include personal hot spot in all their plans. I pay for 2gb of data, I should be able to use it however I want! In order for me to go from the single plan I have now (which isn't available any longer) to one that allows personal hot spot it would be an extra $40 a month!
     
  23. macrumors 6502

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    Nah, we're good.

    Some of us can actually do math, figure out TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) during the research stage.

    :D
     
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    Softbank is in the final stages of getting ready to purchase T-Mobile so it should be interesting to see what happens then....

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    Clearly you don't understand how T-Mobile's JUMP! program works. You can only upgrade twice a year so unless a customer pays out of pocket (same as a cutomer of any other carrier) how would they go broke exactly?
     
  25. macrumors 6502

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    Is AT&T getting into a legal grey area with this move? I can see the DOJ having a problem with a very large competitor targeting the smallest national carrier without making the same offer available to customers of the other two large carriers.
     

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