Well boys and Girls the Dual Core Warz have officially begun as CDW is already taking up pre-orders for the AMD Athlon X2 4800+ with an ETA of 2 weeks. http://amdzone.com/modules.php?op=m...=article&sid=2958&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 Steve'O better have something good for the WWDC or else the future will look bleek for the G5. I have already seen people OC these chips to 3ghz w/water and 2.8ghz on AIR. I can just see the Cinebench scores of 800+ . So much for the Pentium D beating AMD to market, looks like I will be Ebaying my Venice core CPU sooner then expected. FYI...Hector... I just hit 2.7ghz on my Venice 3000+ ...2.7ghz from a $149 CPU ...Fu*king STEAL ..THANK YOU AMD.