ATI Radeon 4890 Compatibility List

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  1. macrumors member

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    I've been lurking for far too long...so here goes my first post!

    So I've read through the whole of Cindori's thread titled "Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro", trying to figure out exactly which Radeon 4890 would be a compatible and reliable solution for flashing to work on Snow Leopard 10.6.1, Mac Pro 1,1.

    To my disappointment, I'm more confused now than I was when I first started reading the thread. :confused: Why? Because cards have gone through revisions and what was working then, now no longer works or has problems. Example: Sapphire cards seem to be what to look for since that was what Cindori used, but "newer" Sapphire cards, even though they may look like reference cards, don't seem to work; older XFX cards worked (and only ZDFC from what I understand), but newer revisions no longer work, etc, etc.

    So I thought I would start a thread where we could compile a list of confirmed working cards for those of us wishing to enter the realm of flashed PC cards in our Macs.

    By the way, thanks to Cindori, nektas et al for all the delicious information on getting a great card into a Mac Pro without the price gouging from :apple:!! :D


    A quick recap for those too lazy (or without enough time) to read through that entire thread (please correct me if I misunderstood or have provided incorrect information, thanks):

    1) Flashing will only work on REFERENCE CARDS (and only some reference cards for that matter), NOT overclocked or modified cards (NOTE: This may no longer be true, see "confirmed working" below).

    2) Dual DVI seems to work fine under Snowy (10.6.1), but your mileage may vary on older versions of Leopard depending on the card you are using.

    3) Older versions of Sapphire and XFX seem to work, but newer revisions are being problematic. I read one instance of success with an HIS card...Diamond did not seem to work for that person (so he tried a HIS and it worked).


    Again, there are different models out there and different revisions, but I am unsure which exactly have been confirmed working (thus why I want to start compiling a list here).




    So, to start, here are some things I found...

    What a reference ATI Radeon 4890 looks like without the cooling (taken from http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/video/rv790-2-p1.html):

    FRONT
    hd4890-scan-front.jpg

    BACK
    hd4890-scan-back.jpg

    And Cindori's card (with cooler):
    kort.jpg





    In order for this list to be comprehensive, please provide the following information if possible.

    Maker: Sapphire, XFX, HIS, etc
    Model#: HD-489A-ZDFC, 100269HDMI, etc
    Full Product Name: SAPPHIRE 100269HDMI Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
    Item #: N82E16814102852, N82E16814150359, etc
    Core Clock: 850MHz, 880MHz, 900MHz, etc
    Memory Clock: 900MHz, 950MHz, 975MHz, etc
    Output: 2 DVIs and 1 S-Video, 1 DVI and 1 HDMI, etc
    Link:

    Any other identifying information that would help someone looking to get (or avoid) a card, such as PICTURES, PART #, REVISION #, or anything else you may think of.

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    Updated: 11/27/09




    CONFIRMED WORKING


    1) Sapphire Radeon 1GB (normal model, not overclock or such)
    ATI RADEON HD4890 1G GDDR5 PCI-E DUAL DVI/TVO

    SKU#: 21150-00
    P/N 102-B79002-00-AT

    --Cindori: Original post here.

    1a) Sapphire NEW EDITION
    Success reported but with a few caveats. READ THIS POST BEFORE BUYING! (thanks mfka for the writeup and Peloche for the ROM and others who contributed). Only tested and confirmed working for Qimonda chipset. Read the post to find out more. Seems that Hynix chipset also works.

    Success reported here.


    2) POWERCOLOR PLUS AX4890 1GBD5-UH Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card - OC Edition - Retail Link (deactivated...again)

    --Tutor: Works under SL flashed
    --SuperSpiker: Success reported here.



    3) MSI R4890-T2D1G OC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - OC Edition - Retail Link (discontinued)

    --Success reported here and here.



    4) XFX Black Edition

    Success was reported here
    Note: Requires modified ROM to remove screen shakes



    5) XFX ZDFC

    Success was reported here
    But also a Fail report here
    (the power was not the issue)



    6) Sapphire HD 4890 Toxic Vapor-X OC 1 gb (Actually a Sapphire TOXIC with Vapor-X cooling)

    Success reported here.



    7) HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail Link. (Deactivated/Discontinued on Newegg...check back often as it seems to come back into stock every once in a while)

    Success reported here, here, and here. Also here (issues with tearing on 30" when two monitors hooked up...anyone else with this issue?) and here. And yet another success here.

    Both red PCB (with 6 and 6 pin power) and blue PCB (with 8 and 6 power) cards have been confirmed working.

    In case you need it, here is the stock (original) ROM (thanks Treksdot)



    8) XFX Radeon 4890 1.0 GB DDR5 XXX (HD-489A-ZDDC)

    Success reported here. (Used injector method) and here (flashed with ATI Tool)


    9) XFX 489A-ZDF7 stock

    Success reported here.
    "used the overclock package...not good results, the fan was running hard at ALL TIMES and was very loud...
    I reverted to the normal package... SILENCE almost as if using the stock card, the fan runs great during game play."





    DOES NOT WORK

    1) No overclocked or modified cards have been reported to work fully . One report of Powercolor OC Edition working (see #2 above, Tutor and SuperStriker) as well as an MSI T2D1G-OC (see Rominator #3 above)
    There was one instance of a XFX TOXIC card working but with problems (see #6 above).


    2) Vapor-X OC

    Failure reported here


    3) Diamond 4890 (A4890PE51G)

    Failure reported here.

    4) Newer versions of XFX ZDFC

    Failure reported here, here and many other places.



    Other Resources:
    http://macprogpu.wikidot.com/aticards Thanks peskaa!




    QE CI Exotic Package 10.6.2 - Thanks Netkas!

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    And finally, a little disclaimer: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR MAC, YOUR WALLET, YOUR HOUSE, YOURSELF, OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN MYSELF. I'm only trying to compile a list to help out those looking for a compatible card, but I cannot guarantee these findings or that they will work for YOU. Thanks, please come again :p
     

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  2. macrumors 68040

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    Success with XFX Black Edition was reported here
    Note: Requires modified ROM to remove screen shakes

    Success with XFX ZDFC was reported here
    But also a Fail report here
    (the power was not the issue)

    Success with an MSI of unknown model was reported here

    Fail with Vapor-X OC reported here

    Success with Toxic reported
    here
    Note: He says Vapor-X but he's got a Toxic. And there's that blank screen shiet...

    further information then model name, currently unavailable ;)

    This is to my knowledge every card that has been tested on this board.
    conclusion? get a sapphire ;)
     
  3. thread starter macrumors member

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    Reference pics

    Thanks Cindori for the additional info.


    Also, I've found some reference pics. I'll make a few different posts as I'm only allowed 5 attachments per post (or so it seems).


    EDIT 10/10/09: These are just pictures of reference cards from different manufacturers. THEY ARE NOT CONFIRMED WORKING YET (except maybe for the Sapphire, which is identical to Cindori's card originally posted in his thread "Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro"). For a complete list of working, non-working, and not yet tested cards please refer to the first post of this thread as I will be updating it as people post their successes and failures with certain cards. As a matter of fact, read every post here, on Cindori's thread, and everywhere else you can find info. This will decrease (read: not eliminate) your chances of getting a card that will not work.


    SAPPHIRE


    sapphire-4890-front.jpg
    sapphire-4890-scan-front.jpg
    sapphire-4890-scan-back.jpg
     
  4. thread starter macrumors member

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    Reference pics

    EDIT 10/10/09: These are just pictures of reference cards from different manufacturers. THEY ARE NOT CONFIRMED WORKING YET (except maybe for the Sapphire, which is identical to Cindori's card originally posted in his thread "Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro"). For a complete list of working, non-working, and not yet tested cards please refer to the first post of this thread as I will be updating it as people post their successes and failures with certain cards. As a matter of fact, read every post here, on Cindori's thread, and everywhere else you can find info. This will decrease (read: not eliminate) your chances of getting a card that will not work.


    HIS


    his-4890-front.jpg
    his-4890-scan-front-with-cooler.jpg
    his-4890-scan-back-with-cooler.jpg
     
  5. thread starter macrumors member

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    EDIT 10/10/09: These are just pictures of reference cards from different manufacturers. THEY ARE NOT CONFIRMED WORKING YET (except maybe for the Sapphire, which is identical to Cindori's card originally posted in his thread "Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro"). For a complete list of working, non-working, and not yet tested cards please refer to the first post of this thread as I will be updating it as people post their successes and failures with certain cards. As a matter of fact, read every post here, on Cindori's thread, and everywhere else you can find info. This will decrease (read: not eliminate) your chances of getting a card that will not work.



    POWERCOLOR



    powercolor-4890-front.jpg
    powercolor-4890-scan-front.jpg
    powercolor-4890-scan-back.jpg
     
  6. macrumors 68040

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    are those confirmed to work? or are you just posting pictures :confused:
     
  7. thread starter macrumors member

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    I'm just posting pictures of what reference cards look like from each maker. These HAVE NOT been confirmed to work, but they are reference cards and *should* work. The only one that has been confirmed to work from the above pictures is the Sapphire, which is identical to your card Cindori (correct me if I'm wrong).
     
  8. Tutor, Oct 10, 2009
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    clean-up

    Clean up
     
  9. macrumors 603

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    The MSI I did is the R4890-T2D1G-OC
     
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    I would advise you return to the picture posts and post some comment about the photos of the cards you've posted, cause there's always a chance some noob will come read this thread and think "oh.. it works" goes away buy the card(s) and discover "crap! doesn't work" then post complains here...

    feel me?
     
  11. thread starter macrumors member

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    Sounds like a good idea!

    :eek:Newbies:eek:
     
  12. macrumors newbie

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    expand to 4870 cards?

    Hi doccelo, I was actually tinking of doing a thread like this for the 4870 series as well.
    Would you mind expanding this to those cards as well?
    What i'm looking for (if possible) is a card I can flash and run without natit.
     
  13. macrumors newbie

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    Here is a list I looked up of common 4870 gfx cards available here in NL.

    XFX
    XFX Radeon HD 4870 1GB DDR5 Standard
    SKU: HD-487A-ZDFC, EAN: 0778656047365, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, HDMI

    XFX Radeon HD 4870 512 MB DDR5
    SKU: HD-487A-YWFC, EAN: 0778656049444, Rad. HD4870, 512MB, PCI-e, HDTV, TV

    XFX HD4870 1024MB DDR5 PCI-E
    SKU: HD-487A-ZWFL, EAN: 0778656049451, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL

    XFX Radeon HD 4870 1GB DDR5 Standard
    SKU: HD-487A-ZDFC, EAN: 0778656047365, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, HDMI

    XFX Radeon HD4870 1.0GB DDR5 XXX
    SKU: HD-487A-ZHDC, EAN: 0778656048447, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, HDTV

    XFX Radeon HD4870 1.0 GB DDR5
    SKU: HD-487A-ZHFC, EAN: 0778656049185, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, HDTV

    XFX Radeon HD 4870 512MB DDR5 Standard
    SKU: HD-487A-YDFC, EAN: 0778656047358, Rad. HD4870, 512MB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, HDMI

    XFX HD4870 512 MB
    SKU: HD-487A-YHDC, EAN: 0778656048546, Rad. HD4870, 512MB, PCI-e, DVI DL, HDTV

    SAPPHIRE
    Sapphire VAPOR-X HD 4870 2GB GDDR5 PCI-E
    SKU: 11133-17-20R, EAN: 4895106244689, Rad. HD4870, 2GB, PCI-e, DVI, HDMI, VGA

    Sapphire VAPOR-X HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E
    SKU: 11133-16-20R, EAN: 4895106244672, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, DVI, HDMI, VGA

    Sapphire HD 4870 1G GDDR5 PCI-E QP
    SKU: 11133-19-20R, EAN: 4895106247123, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, TV

    Sapphire Toxic HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E
    SKU: 11133-14-10, 11133-14-10R, 11133-14-20, 11133-14-20R, EAN: 4895106243248, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, TV

    Sapphire HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E
    SKU: 11133-03-20R, EAN: 4895106240162, Rad. HD4870, 512MB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, TV

    Sapphire HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E
    SKU: 11133-04, 11133-04-20R, 21133-04-2, EAN: 4895106239241, 4895106240186, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI, TV

    Sapphire TOXIC Radeon HD 4870 512 MB GDDR5 PCI-E
    SKU: 11133-06, 11133-06-20R, 11133-06-40R, EAN: 4895106240360, Rad. HD4870, 512MB, PCI-e

    CLUB3D
    Club3D HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5
    SKU: CGAX-48724DDC, EAN: 8717249405825, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI, HDMI, HDTV

    Club3D HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5 Overclocked Edition
    SKU: CGAX-48724DDO, EAN: 8717249405504, Rad. HD4870, 1GB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, TV

    Club3D HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 Overclocked Edition
    SKU: CGAX-4872DDO, EAN: 8717249405351, Rad. HD4870, 512MB, PCI-e, 2x DVI DL, TV
     
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    I have a Wiki running for exactly this purpose: http://macprogpu.wikidot.com/ - why not just create a 4890 section in there? It will look a lot neater, and be easier to find info than a massive forum thread ;)
     
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    or..lets..farm posts and get avatars? :cool:
     
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    I think it would be a great idea to do a similar thread for the 4870! I'm just not sure if mixing both cards in this thread would be beneficial as it might create confusion. I'm willing to do it if that's what people want, so I'll wait to hear back from the community in regards to this before I update the first post with 4870 cards.
     
  17. thread starter macrumors member

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    I say we keep both updated. I'll appreciate the extra help. Pretty soon there will lots of info here and I may miss something. If you (or anyone for that matter) would go through this thread every so often and pull any info from here and update the wiki that would be great!
     
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    I'll start a secondary thread with only the 4870 cards.
     
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    I can, yes. The Wiki is open for anybody to edit, so hopefully it wouldn't just be me ;) The threads are useful for actually discussing/hunting down bugs etc.
     
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    Might be a weird question but will the flashed 4890 card work without any software modifications (kexts/natit etc)
     
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    the device id does not exist in OSX, so it must be added into a plist. this is called the QE_CI pkg. since the plist is overwritten in almost all osx updates, you need a new QE_CI pkg by every update.

    otherwise you wont get quartz extreme / core image. basically no 3d.
     
  22. macrumors newbie

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    So 2D will work but no QE with every 10.6.x update. understood.
    So a "safe" boot will work. Trying to figure out what the best route would be for gaming in Bootcamp (vista 64bit) and hassle free OSX experiance.

    Also do the flashed cards also have the "grey boot" issue (from what I understood from the other threads, no, correct)?

    Actually is there an IRC channel where I can ask this stuff as well.
     
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    yes you will be able to boot after a new patch

    grey boot issue? if you mean boot screen, yes you get that with flashed card

    an IRC channel is a good idea. if someone would host it, i'd be happy to hang around.
     
  24. thread starter macrumors member

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    Hey Rominator, could you give more details on which card exactly that is because I couldn't find those identifying numbers/letters anywhere. There are two on Newegg, is it either of those?
     
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