After reading through a handful of reviews (cnet, arstechnica, etc.) about the video ipodsi quickly came to realize; nobody talks about the actual sound quality! They put together these huge reviews analysing the design to death, all about scratches and video video video....and as far as audio discussion goes they basically say "it sounds fine, also." In the forums here i've found a few brief sound quality comparisons but there needs to be a full topic actually comparing the qualities of the audio to other companies, previous ipods, nanos, etc. Unless I missed it and there already is one, i hope this becomes a serious, detailed discussion about the sound quality in the video ipods. So far all i've heard is that the shuffle has the best output of all, and one guy thinks his 4th gen sounds better than the new ipods.