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Bare iPhone 6 Logic Board Surfaces, Claimed to Support NFC and 802.11ac Wi-Fi
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Remember what I said earlier:
1. There are rumors that Apple has signed a major deal for mobile payments with China UnionPay.
2. The Japanese and South Korean cellphone carriers want NFC on the iPhone 6 because NFC mobile payments are widely used in these two countries.
3. The group behind the (formerly named) ISIS mobile payment system wants Apple to put NFC on the newest iPhone models to expedite fast rollout of mobile payments in the USA.
Besides, nobody is interested in doing mobile payments using Bluetooth 4.0 (LE), since the range or Bluetooth 4.0 makes it highly vulnerable to potential hacking. NFC's extremely short range (only a few centimeters!) is a more viable (and definitely more mature) solution for mobile payments by cellphone.
1. There are rumors that Apple has signed a major deal for mobile payments with China UnionPay.
2. The Japanese and South Korean cellphone carriers want NFC on the iPhone 6 because NFC mobile payments are widely used in these two countries.
3. The group behind the (formerly named) ISIS mobile payment system wants Apple to put NFC on the newest iPhone models to expedite fast rollout of mobile payments in the USA.
Besides, nobody is interested in doing mobile payments using Bluetooth 4.0 (LE), since the range or Bluetooth 4.0 makes it highly vulnerable to potential hacking. NFC's extremely short range (only a few centimeters!) is a more viable (and definitely more mature) solution for mobile payments by cellphone.
Am I the only one who's more excited for 802.11ac instead of NFC?
Don't much care about either. What do you need a network speed of... honestly 802.11b would be enough. All right, maybe g/n for range.
For a computer network I get it, but an iPhone? lol.
I like 802.11ac more than nfc
NFC should be a simple addition to iOS and the hardware. I rarely use NFC at this time but who knows what sort of application could make it popular. Don't restrict hardware since it can be shut off in the OS. I've done the bump and exchange of pictures etc. I don't think developers should be restricted. I'd hope for ip67 waterproof dustproof rating too and HD audio. Hard to tell from just PCB layouts. Since WiFi is all through my city... 99.9% of the time I don't need data service through a carrier so bring on the WiFi performance. Too bad ISPs suck.
NFC should be a simple addition to iOS and the hardware. I rarely use NFC at this time but who knows what sort of application could make it popular. Don't restrict hardware since it can be shut off in the OS. I've done the bump and exchange of pictures etc. I don't think developers should be restricted. I'd hope for ip67 waterproof dustproof rating too and HD audio. Hard to tell from just PCB layouts. Since WiFi is all through my city... 99.9% of the time I don't need data service through a carrier so bring on the WiFi performance. Too bad ISPs suck.
OK like what? Internet speeds for most people aren't even close to that, also iPhone's nand flash isn't even capable of ac speeds.
So?
For an active device (powered, that is), NFC doesn't really have technical advantages over low energy bluetooth... which the iPhone already has.
And NFC-based payment systems don't seem to be successful enough to force Apple's hand.
As far as I can tell, it just doesn't make sense to ever add NFC to iPhones. So, I doubt this source.
But in reality, it won't matter. 802.11n can reach 300+Mbps, which is almost 40 mega BYTES of data. Almost no consumer provider can give us these WiFi speeds, and these are theoretical based on lots of factors.
I wish ac provided more real-world advantages over n, but until (at least in the US) broadband internet speeds pick up the pace, the improvement won't be realized.
I don't see it. NFC-based payment networks haven't been successful, so why would Apple try to prop them up (and give up a precious 1/10mm
or whatever of iPhone thickness to accommodate the antenna)?He said that everything related to wifi will be faster, which is wrong. In fact, as another poster pointed out, it won't be faster at all due to the speed limitations of NAND flash. It will be good for improved battery life but that's it.
HERE is why Apple added this
NFC has been added because it NOW (unlike three years ago, say) actually has a use case --- and that use case is not "wallets" and "payment schemes".
There is a pairing standard for BlueTooth whereby new BT devices can pair with a phone simply by NFC contact, so basically tapping the BT device against the phone.
http://www.ti.com/lit/an/sloa187/sloa187.pdf
The same thing is coming to WiFi (I don't know if it's yet officially part of the spec) to make it easier to connect "Internet of Things" devices without any UI mechanism to WiFi networks.
IMHO it is THIS that has persuaded Apple that it now finally makes sense to add NFC, because you can now do something useful with it.
Am I the only one who's more excited for 802.11ac instead of NFC?
NFC has been added because it NOW (unlike three years ago, say) actually has a use case --- and that use case is not "wallets" and "payment schemes".
There is a pairing standard for BlueTooth whereby new BT devices can pair with a phone simply by NFC contact, so basically tapping the BT device against the phone.
http://www.ti.com/lit/an/sloa187/sloa187.pdf
The same thing is coming to WiFi (I don't know if it's yet officially part of the spec) to make it easier to connect "Internet of Things" devices without any UI mechanism to WiFi networks.
IMHO it is THIS that has persuaded Apple that it now finally makes sense to add NFC, because you can now do something useful with it.
Look, if you're not an expert on these issues, you're not adding to the discussion by throwing out uniformed opinion.
(a) The fact that you have slow internet at your house does not change the fact that there are OTHER usage scenarios that can utilize higher bandwidth. One set set of these is public situations (for example conferences, workplaces) where base stations try to connect to every device as fast as possible, and where high internet bandwidth has been arranged.
(b) Adding to (a) there are features in 802.11ac that further improve the conference type situation by allowing multiple devices to communicate simultaneously with a single base station. These features (MU-MIMO) may or may not be part of the new iPhones, we don't know yet. (Broadcom announced some months ago that they will have an MU-MIMO phone chipset ready in a few months, but gave no more details. It is not inconceivable that Apple has arranged to be the first purchaser of that chipset.)
(c) Adding to (b) there are features in 802.11ac (in particular beam-forming) that allow you to maintain higher bandwidth at much larger distances (or through thicker walls) than 802.11n. There are plenty of people constantly whining about how 802.11 gives them lousy speeds in their basements or gardens or whatever, who will see improvements from 802.11ac.
Louis CK does a whole routine about how people who don't have a clue how cellphones work feel happy to complain about how lousy they are. But whenever 802.11ac comes up, we see something even weirder --- a chorus of people saying "I don't want it to get better, nothing should change, all the engineers are stupid for trying to improve WiFi".
I mean, seriously, WTF? What is driving these bizarre complaints?