Beastie Boys Album installs copy protection

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  1. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/366191/2004-06-13/2004-06-19/0

    "It seems that Capitol Records has some sort of new copy protection system,
    that automatically, silently, installs "helpful" copy protection software on
    MacOS and Windows as soon as you insert the CD into default systems.
    I'm not sure exactly what it does yet, but I am sure regreting actually
    purchasing said media now... they don't deserve my money if they choose
    to pull stupid stunts like this. Installing software without your permission
    sounds like viral malware behaviour to me. I certainly hope the AV companies put signatures into their products for this crap."

    http://www.beastieboys.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=20128&highlight=copy+protected
     
  2. Phatpat macrumors 6502a

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    Just one of the many reasons why I buy music from ITMS
     
  3. GrannySmith_G5 macrumors 6502

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    Wow, that is pretty crappy. I read this on the second link you gave, is this true that there is no compact disc logo on this album?
    "Yep, all of the various copy-protection schemes suck big time. They all involved 'damaging' the data that is on the CD, and placing false error-correction bits throughout the recording. Which results in imperfect playback, but the major record companies that use these systems insist that these digital errors are inaudible. Maybe to the average listener they are, but it's still disconcerting to know that you can't ever get a 100% correct signal.

    By the way, you'll notice that you won't see the 'Compact Disc Digital Audio' logo which is on every CD pre-copy protection. This is because the disc violates the CDDA standards (because of the lack of proper error correction)and Philips refuses to allow these discs to carry the logo. Therefore, the disc isn't technically a 'CD', according to the official standards.
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  4. Coolvirus007 macrumors regular

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    Good for Philips. This is a outrage. I am not going to have any 'anti-copy' software automatically installed on MY computer.
     
  5. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Yeah, this sounds way too much like spyware. :(

    Do the CDs in the US that have anti-ripping tech advertise it? There are a couple of Japanese pop CDs I want off yesasia.com and it specifically warns that I won't be able to rip them...so I'm just wondering how true it is.
     
  6. etoiles macrumors 6502a

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    oh man, this sucks. I just ordered the CD two days ago... I guess I'll find out soon what this is all about.
     
  7. Riot_Mac macrumors regular

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    I thought you couldnt install anything without an admns pw on mac os x... am i wrong? how would they get around this?
     
  8. the_ron macrumors newbie

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    It looks like the US and UK discs still don't have copy protection on them. http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/11/new_beasties_disc_ha.html
    I purchased the new cd and was able to rip it onto my comp and listen to it on my iPod. I did notice that there is a big FBI warning on the back along with a spiel about how piracy is bad and all that.
     
  9. MacFan26 macrumors 65816

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    great news, this will just send more people to iTunes :D

    Seriously, what are they thinking installing software when you put the CD in your computer?
     
  10. Sabbath macrumors 6502a

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    This copy protection on cds is getting out of hand. No one (who uses an iPod) wants to buy a cd that they may not be able to rip. Its just too much hassle returning it if it doesnt work. They should be forced to state clearly on the packaging what the cd will do and what it won't.
     
  11. irmongoose macrumors 68030

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    Of course these discs don't have the Compact Disc logos on them... technically they aren't even CDs when you have copy protection software on them. They are... copy-protected discs, I guess. So anyone advertising them as CDs (the term is used loosely for any audio disc, but technically these are NOT), it's false advertising. I dunno if that will hold up in any court, though.



    irmongoose
     
  12. GrannySmith_G5 macrumors 6502

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    Oh yeah, of course they don't. Silly me.
     
  13. Devilshotrod macrumors newbie

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    US & UK issues of this cd don't have the "protection". Sounds like EMI just wants to stifle the very lucrative eastern pirates. So I guess we can all relax.
    DHR
     
  14. dogbyte_13 macrumors newbie

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    And this is why i have been buying my music off of iTunes more often. :D
     
  15. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    Imagine if Philips did a look and feel trademark case against the people who made these mock CD's much like Apple did against Windows. Make the record companies have to make the things square or black instead of shiny on one side.
     
  16. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040

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    may not be too much of an issue

    links posted by other people say the copy protection is outside the US/UK only. I suspect canada is exempt as well.

    This article talk about another album that is copy protected inside the US/UK.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/18/copy_protected_cd_smash/

    but also says it is quite likely a mac and get it anyway.
     
  17. MrMacMan macrumors 604

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    This forum has just been:

    Slashdotted!!!


    I'm not about to get to the Beatie Boys Forum, is it down?
    If so can we have a mirror over here.

    And MacRumors -- Good Luck handling the Slashdotting. :eek:

    --MrMacMan

    edit: read here
     
  18. whfsdude macrumors 6502a

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    The Beastie Boys have sold out, that's all I can say. Actually I've always sort of thought they have been a record company band. Look at their hits, cds IMO were not that good and I've never understood why some many people have liked them.
     
  19. dethl macrumors regular

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    RIAA won't learn

    Doesn't matter if some CD's have protection. Those of us who don't have it can just rip it and send it all over the place.

    FYI, my sis bought the album and ripped it with NO problem. I'm currently enjoying the album until I have enough money to purchase my own copy.
     
  20. Devilshotrod macrumors newbie

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    Wow. You must be really young. I'm 28 and remember the beginning of hip-hop coming to the main-stream. B-Boys played a huge part of that. This is a group that defines the word "original" in terms of lyrics and music, especially for paul's boutique, check your head, and ill communication. If you call these guys a "record company" band I can only imagine that you have listened to too much insane clown possee and think anyone who doesn't wear a mask or put on make-up is a "sell-out". Don't feel bad not understanding why so many people like them, you'll get it when you stop basing your music taste on mtv.
    DHR
     
  21. whfsdude macrumors 6502a

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    Paul's Boutique is their best CD.

    Yeah at first they were not a Record Company sellout and they still are not but any big bands have influence and I don't know how I feel about their songs. ..And Sabotage is the worst song ever.

    I agree that ICP sucks more. Infact I can't can't ICP.

    Actually I don't even watch MTV, because I can't stand it. Nor do I listen to mainstream radio with the exception of morning shows.

    wazee.org is about all I listen to besides my personal music collection.
     
  22. str8edge macrumors newbie

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    Beastie Boys in Canada

    I just bought the "limited edition" version of the disc in Regina, Sask, Canada. There is a big Copy Controled logo on the back. Time to see there is any "alternative" to Mac OS/ Windows that will allow me to extract the music. Solaris has worked in the past. The stupid thing is that the discs will play in my car's MP3 player, but only if I skip track 1.

    David
     
  23. MacFan26 macrumors 65816

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    I've pretty much stopped listening to the radio all together. I can't stand all the DJ's and the commmercials. Some stations, they play like one song an hour. My iPod is my hero! :D
     
  24. kzoonut macrumors member

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    Vinyl

    Bought my copy on Vinyl. Will be a little more work to get it onto my iPod but at least I don't have to worry about spyware...
     
  25. obeygiant thread starter macrumors 68040

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    this IS off topic, but what do you use to get vinyl into digital with good levels?
     

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