Well, I just bought Norton Utilities 8.0 and I'm damn disappointed. Again. I resent the fact that I have to buy these programs when they should be included with the computer. Is TechTool Pro 4 any better than Norton's? I used them when I was on OS 9 and they were okay. Norton's just seems to miss things. I diagnose and repair disk one day then do it again and it still finds major errors. Even if I'd hardly done anything on the computer between time.