'Big-box' wage law passes

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  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    good! its a step in the right direction, but it might push some large stores away, which is why it should be done everywhere!

    still i think walmart and places like it will keep shop open there
     
  3. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Of course they will. They need us more than we need them.
     
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    I do not agree with this bill one bit. The mayor ought to veto this bill in a heart beat. This is a clear cut attack on big bussinesses making them pay their employees more because they occupy 90000 square feet and have profits of over a billion? WTF? Is this not crazy? This is like saying Exxon now has to charge a maximum of 1.99 per galloon becuase they made record profits. This is very un-american might I add.

    Since when do companies have to be forced to give back to the community? Isn't giving charity? Can't they do that other ways? If people are tired of dirt poor wages, might I suggest going to community college and get a two year degree. It's cheap, the state covers a lot of the tuition already. Then with that degree you can get a higher paying job. Forcing certain companies to pay a minimum wage, but not others is completely unconstitutional. Regardless of size, profit margin, ect.

    This is a steal from the rich give to the poor kind of bill.
     
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    Hey 1.99 dollar gas, I'm all for it! Seriously though, I think the gov should control the oil industry as it is vital for the survival of the american economy. Not much of a choice really. Just my thoughts......maybe a tad socialistic lol
     
  6. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Oh Waa- waa F***ing waah! Where do the rich get their profits from? The air? No! From their EMPLOYEES. Steal from the rich? Oh please. Can you pay for those degrees? What? No? I didn't think do.
     
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    It's perfectly OK to take from those who have more than you. That seems to be quite American these days. :rolleyes:
     
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    I think of it as a "keep the rich from stealing from the poor" kind of bill.

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  9. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Bingo! I'm sick of this neocon attitude that "oh, the poor are lazy" BS. The poor are doing the best they can and would do better if given the chance.

    Oh really? You know what? I came up from nothing man. I had to build my own life as my family and parents would have nothing to do with me because I'm gay. That SUCKED. If you think that it's terrible to share, then you need to go back and learn how. Gee- sorry at your luck. :mad: Must be tough to have everything.
     
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    first off, i hate big box retailers. i hate the way they force closures of the so-called mom and pop stores, and i hate seeing (what i view as) such trashy, suburban stores pollute my urban landscape.

    that said, i disagree with this bill. it's unfair practice and there's no way this would survive a challenge in federal court.

    if the city council does care about higher wages, it should pass a municipal minimum wage. i believe the illinois min wage is $6.50 already.
     
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    Haha you think I'm a neocon that funny. I'm a libertarian mind you. Plus I am not saying the poor is lazy. Where did you get that from? I agree with the second part of that statement though. America needs to provide a MUCH better education. If given a proper education, many would be far better off economically then they are now. Especially in the cities. That is where we need to focus our attention. Not some damn war in Iraq, not companies who make a lot of money.

    Maybe some should have taken advantage from the free education this country offers? though it does need to be fixed. America is doing a huge disservice to america's youth. Community College is not expensive at all. One could take it during the night. Once would take classes online. I didn't say it would be easy.

    So is paying minimum wage stealing from the poor? I don't see how it is. It's very simple, if you want more money go somewhere else and work! Its not always going to be easy. Life sucks like that.

    zim i guess you are a neocon too :rolleyes:
     
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    There are some cases where minimum wage is fitting, but when a company is earning massive profits and they can easily afford to pay their employees more, then I think they should. I'm not saying they shouldn't make profits. I'm saying they should be more fair to their employees.

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    I do not believe he was accusing you of being a neo-con.

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  13. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Community college cost at least $250 a class (and that is the most affordable)! That's affordable to a lot of folks? You're kidding, right? Oh Ok, community college is easy! :rolleyes: Free education? Where? I'd love to know.
     
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    Maybe they can easily afford to raise their wages. Doesn't mean the government should force them too. Again, if people think they are being misstreated, take it up with the company. Or go somewhere else.
     
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    and if there's nowhere else to go and the company won't budge?

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    I could have sworn when you were a kid, attending public grade school, middle school, and highschool cost the students 0 dollars. The Tax payer on the other hand... different story ;)

    I can't vouch for the ones in Chicago, but some around here offer full ride schollarships to those who don't have the money. Again, they needed at least some decent grade in highschool... There are many scholarships out there, some funded by the "evil big companies who steal from the poor" that send the underprivalidged to school. In fact many companies offer their employees tuition if they agree to stick with working for that company when they are done with school.
     
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    THen it appears you are screwed. Life sucks.
     
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    what a crummy attitude to take.

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  19. KingYaba macrumors 68040

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    A better answer would be keep complaining to your manager. Tell he/she that this company is vastly undercutting my pay. this company is not appreciating the time and dedication, and hard work I do for this company. Keep writing them letters, or dropping off suggestions in the employee suggestion box (if they have them).

    If you can, take it up with the union?
     
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    I tend to have a crummy attitude at night :p
     
  21. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    You've got to be kidding. King- you must live in a great fantasy world. Can I come play there? A place where your company gives a ****? Do you live in the real world? Union? What union? There's a union for graphic designers and art directors?

    Here's the answer- You're an artist, be glad you have a job. And no-I'm not kidding. Just quit you say? Can you see where this is going?
     
  22. KingYaba macrumors 68040

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    So taking it up with your manager and offering suggestions is fantasy?

    About the unions, I said if you can, take it up. Doesn't mean everyone has a union they can go complain to. One can always offer suggestions to their boss.

    leekholr I'm beginning to think you are just trying to irritate me. Instead of having a rational discusion.

    *waits for leekholr's attempt in irritation again
     
  23. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Yes, taking it up with your manager is a fantasy where I work. I wish I was trying to piss you off. You still don't get it, do you? Suggestions are fine, but I work 24/7, sometimes more... and you think that's OK? I'm not kidding man. I see you have no answer. No surprise.
     
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    yes, I'm afraid it is. In fact, doing that often jeopardizes your job when it comes to unskilled corporate employment. After all, they can just find someone who doesn't complain about their unfair wage.

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    Getting fired for offering your opinion on how to improve conditions in your place of work... pathetic on the employer's part. We can fight that. Take them to court.
     

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