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Biggest iPod rip-off
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That thing looks like someone took an old black Sony Walkman, shrunk it a bit, and stuck in a photo-negatived iPod display. The menu navigation and the scrolling feature look pretty much the same, the buttons are in nearly the same position as the first two iPod versions, and the font looks familiar too. It does function as a hard drive, as well, even though it uses USB 2.0. Only the scroll wheel is missing, and I agree that this constitutes a weakness.
So yes, as long as it's borrowing quite that much from the iPod, it have been nice of them to give it at least a brief mention. Even better for their purposes if they'd approached it from a "we have all that AND recording AND an equalizer" direction.
The real weakness of the thing is that they couldn't possibly integrate it with even the major PC music management programs as well as the iPod goes with iTunes....an advantage that the Windows crowd can soon choose to share with us Mac users.
A note on battery life....I consistently get 10 hours out of my Rev. B iPod, but then I run it all the way down before recharging. I've actually run my iPod for a half an hour after all the bars are gone from the battery display! It's like having another gallon in the tank after the gas light goes on.
So yes, as long as it's borrowing quite that much from the iPod, it have been nice of them to give it at least a brief mention. Even better for their purposes if they'd approached it from a "we have all that AND recording AND an equalizer" direction.
The real weakness of the thing is that they couldn't possibly integrate it with even the major PC music management programs as well as the iPod goes with iTunes....an advantage that the Windows crowd can soon choose to share with us Mac users.
A note on battery life....I consistently get 10 hours out of my Rev. B iPod, but then I run it all the way down before recharging. I've actually run my iPod for a half an hour after all the bars are gone from the battery display! It's like having another gallon in the tank after the gas light goes on.
Apple didnt invent the mp3 player, hard drive mp3 player, or small size mp3 player. They refined some pre-existing concepts into a great package.
Apple did not invent 802.11b or any other wireless spec. They were not the first to market with any wireless technology. You could get 802.11 on pcs long before Apple decided to make it an Apple standard. The same applies to 802.11g. Again all Apple did was take existing technology and refine it and make it easier to use.
Re: Biggest iPod rip-off
In fact, it has quite some more features than the iPod. Direct recording e.g. would have been a nice feature on the ipod - i recently had to buy a dictating recorder, despite having an ipod - thats another 60bucks down the drain...
Look at the equalizer - iPod doesn't have it. It has the settings of itunes - but nothing you can fiddle around on the go.
IPod also doesnt recognize WMA audio afaik... another Point for phillips.
The Phillips seems to have a bigger screen and no scrollwheel - besides, it's black, so completely opposite of the Ipod
The only thing that looks remotely like the iPod is the Menu - but then, all mp3 players with a slightly larger display have this kind of menu...
item1
item2
item3
item4
Thinking about it, almost all phones, mobiles especially have the same menu (stolen from nokia btw.)
Where's the Problem? It's not even remotely the same thing. It doesn't even have firewire, but USB2 - probably it's not compatible with the mac...
In fact, it has quite some more features than the iPod. Direct recording e.g. would have been a nice feature on the ipod - i recently had to buy a dictating recorder, despite having an ipod - thats another 60bucks down the drain...
Look at the equalizer - iPod doesn't have it. It has the settings of itunes - but nothing you can fiddle around on the go.
IPod also doesnt recognize WMA audio afaik... another Point for phillips.
The Phillips seems to have a bigger screen and no scrollwheel - besides, it's black, so completely opposite of the Ipod
The only thing that looks remotely like the iPod is the Menu - but then, all mp3 players with a slightly larger display have this kind of menu...
item1
item2
item3
item4
Thinking about it, almost all phones, mobiles especially have the same menu (stolen from nokia btw.)
Where's the Problem? It's not even remotely the same thing. It doesn't even have firewire, but USB2 - probably it's not compatible with the mac...
It's 8 hours.
8 hours is ok if you use it in every day live and connect it every evening to recharge.
it's completely useless if you're travelling.
not to mention that it easiely stays on if your not carefull enough to lock the controls. I've been cought more than once with a spent battery with my new 15gig iPod.
You can't even replace Batteries on it, you need to find a Power plug... find one in a tent...
So your iPod has a battery life of 12 to 15 hours?
Anyway, only Apple would lower the battery life of a product from 10 hours to 8 hours, instead of increase the battery life. I guess that in a time where my portable CD player can get 80 hours of battery life, I'm a bit spoiled, but I would like to get more than 8 hours. Even the 10 hours of the old iPod would be better.
I know that.
It's just that when Apple takes the concepts and makes a great package, that's when it takes off and makes a "statement." Then, later on, the PC consumer notices it being done and thinks "Ah, another innovative idea...I'm so glad I'm not an Apple person...those machines are just toys anyway, I've got WIRELESS that's so cool of Microsoft to do!" I'm talking about the "man on the street" who doesn't hang around sites like this, or first time computer buyers. It's a "consumer conception" that I'm talking about here.I know I'm not giving the best example, but it's difficult for me to put in actual terms. I think some will understand what I'm attempting to put across.
I suppose this isn't a big iPod rip off, but it's definitely got some rival features. Like the battery life. It hasn't been released yet, has it been available for preorder long? I just saw it today.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00028DJTY/ref=amb_right-2_96522_1/103-0066278-9355840
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00028DJTY/ref=amb_right-2_96522_1/103-0066278-9355840
visor said:
And that's exactly what I meant. The menu is a ripoff of the iPod? Did they invent the menu? The iPod's menu is fairly standard issue in terms of layout, similar to Nokia's. I had an old electronic organizer with that type of menu layout as well.
And if iPod implements more of the features that their competitors are adding, is Apple ripping someone off? I doubt I'd ever hear that from you guys.... Its like some of you have tunnel vision or something.
If someone has a great idea that works brilliantly, expand on it. Why go in a completely different direction if someone found a way that works? Going out and doing it completely your own way and ignoring what actually works well is pure ego. There's only so many ways that an HDD based mp3 player could work, and there's only one that works well.
