Bill gates Mocks Linux Laptop

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by macEfan, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. macEfan macrumors 65816


    Apr 7, 2005
    Forbidden, you do not have access to that server
  2. WildCowboy Administrator/Editor


    Staff Member

    Jan 20, 2005
    I don't think the link was posted there, but there has been a bit of discussion in this thread.
  3. Seasought macrumors 65816


    Nov 3, 2005
    He makes an excellent point. After all, with his solid reputation for high quality, well-functioning computers with exceptionally intuitive design he is the most likely forerunner to pioneer this area. And what about price? Let's not forget about the great deals Microsoft provides to new customers and established business partners.

  4. thedude110 macrumors 68020


    Jun 13, 2005
    He's been pretty consistent in his criticism, but I really don't buy what he has to say. He loves to mock the crank on the $100 laptop, but doesn't want to address the fact that electricity is not a universally abundant resource.

    That he's supposedly so committed to social justice (via his foundation), yet simultaneously so angry about this initiative (which IS social justice at its core) -- ugh.

    Look. I don't know Bill Gates, and he's done a lot of good. But this makes him look awfully petty.
  5. killuminati macrumors 68020


    Dec 6, 2004
    I can't believe he said that. This laptop was meant for poor children in undeveloped countries and he's basically saying "don't be such cheap bastards and buy yourselves real laptops" :(
  6. emaja macrumors 68000

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    I hate how he mentions broadband as if it is a birthright. Not everyone in the US has access to BB, and in the countries that this laptop is aimed at, there is no universal access to electricity even.
  7. cgratti macrumors 6502a


    Dec 28, 2004
    Central Pennsylvania, USA
    He wasnt cracking Linux, just the cheap $100 laptops it was installed on. He does have a point..
  8. Dr. Dastardly macrumors 65816

    Dr. Dastardly

    Jun 26, 2004
    I live in a giant bucket!
    I just think Bill cannot grasp the concept of the $100 laptop. Which doesn't make sense to me at all seeing all the charity work he does. The demographic for these is poor kids in Africa who can't afford laptops. Its no where near the same type of situation with our poor. Quite a few in Africa don't have access to power and thus features like the handcrank for power.

    What are they suppose to use? A Dell?
  9. dornoforpyros macrumors 68040


    Oct 19, 2004
    Calgary, AB
    ugg, it baffles me that such smart people can completely miss the point of a $100 laptop.

    This isn't about having a machine for business or personal use, this is about putting computers in the hands of people who have never sent an e-mail before. People who have never held a computer, or typed the epic "hello world" on a keyboard.

    Get off your high horse and embrace it for what it is, for all you know one of these kids picking up a $100 laptop may well revolutionize the technology industry.
  10. iPhil macrumors 68040


  11. Bubbasteve macrumors 65816


    Dec 23, 2004
    Charleston, IL
    Man Bill Gates is so cool :cool:
    sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm
  12. Dagless macrumors Core


    Jan 18, 2005
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    Most people have said what I'm thinking.
    I don't know why he's against this so much. something doesn't feel right about it. maybe he was misquoted?
  13. dubbz macrumors 68020


    Sep 3, 2003
    Alta, Norway
    Ye.. that quote really makes him look like a bastard. I whouldn't be suprised if he's a bit pissed that they don't use any MS tech (like WinCE), but I'm suprised if this is what he's really said.
  14. jdechko macrumors 68040

    Jul 1, 2004
    I completely agree with what the initiative is doing: trying to get computers into underdeveloped societies. And I am shocked about the comment Gates made considering the charity work he does. It all just seems really odd.

    I'm trying to start a similar ministry at my church. There are a lot of people who don't have computers at all, and I'd like to take some old(er) computers and fix them up, put Linux (probably fedora core 4, Open office, firefox, etc) and a free ISP on them, and give them away to people in the community for free or donations. Using a paid product on such a large (charitable) scale is too expensive, and cost prohibitive for what I have in mind.
  15. JeffTL macrumors 6502a

    Dec 18, 2003
    I think what Gates and Barrett trying to say was that they think the project's product is not significant enough to be worth the trouble and expense. I don't really know, having not looked into this too much, but I'd hate to jump straight to assuming that Gates and Barrett are wrong.
  16. Queso macrumors G4

    Mar 4, 2006
    That's exactly what he's worried about. Someone born without a $1m trust fund might just show him up. Comments like this make me think that however much money his B&MG Foundation gives, he still doesn't get what it's all about.
  17. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

    Lord Blackadder

    May 7, 2004
    Sod off
    I started a thread about this back when Barret first made his comment....they're both missing the point. The $100 laptop is cheaper than any alternative Gates & Co. came up with, it isn't reliant on commercial software and it has a fricking hand crank, which is a great feature and I don't understand why they disagree. They're just mad because they didn't think of the crank first. :rolleyes:

    Gates complains about lack of features etc. on the $100 laptop, but in reality it is his devices that are the "gadgets": too expensive for developing countries and full of features that will be useless to the intended market.
  18. Eraserhead macrumors G4


    Nov 3, 2005
    I agree! (and obviously with the sarcasm as well), bill needs to get rid of some more $$$ even with his charity donations he's still *much* worse than Steve Jobs (who offered them OS X for free...)
  19. Counterfit macrumors G3


    Aug 20, 2003
    sitting on your shoulder
  20. GFLPraxis macrumors 604


    Mar 17, 2004
    I think this is hilarious, considering Gates is coming out with a similar product (small, tiny touch screen) and that he was trying to get Windows on the thing and Linux won out. He's being a sore loser, and showing it.

    However, like others said, the comment itself is totally inappropriate. It's meant for poor children.

    A few things to note:

    1) Microsoft offered Windows for the sub-$100 laptop (Apple offered too IIRC), but they turned it down because they didn't want to lock developing countries into a proprietary OS and company.

    Billy is just mad because they wouldn't use his OS. Seems very childish.

    2) The hilarious thing is his quote Gates:
    Sound familiar? I'll give you a hint: Project Origami.

    Seriously Gates, don't mock things for having a tiny screen when you're currently hyping a portable mini-computer.
  21. GFLPraxis macrumors 604


    Mar 17, 2004
    I'd much rather have a solar panel than a hand crank.

    Someone needs to develop a cheap solar battery. Make the surface of the laptop absorb light, and just leave your laptop in the sun to charge. They already have a screen that's visible in direct sunlight anyway.

    But the hand crank is brilliant for a cheap laptop.
  22. Josh macrumors 68000


    Mar 4, 2004
    State College, PA
    Because the statement is coming from a man (Gates) who gives MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars to charities and underprivalliged groups, I don't quite think that's what he is 'basically saying.'
  23. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

    Lord Blackadder

    May 7, 2004
    Sod off
    A solar panel is a more elegant solution ergonomically, but the crank will work anywhere, in the dark, no matter what orientation the laptop is in etc. It is also a more durable soution. With that being said, and assuming the efficiency of solar panels increase as predicted, we are set to see them show up on laptops in the not-to-distant future.

    I agree, but I do think that he is bashing a perfectly good solution for reasons that appear to have no basis in fact.
  24. savar macrumors 68000


    Jun 6, 2003
    District of Columbia
    Right on...I think you're 100% right here. Don't forget that both Apple and Microsoft offered to provide free OS's for all of these computers. Instead they're going to be learning on Linux. Eventually millions of people who have exclusive Linux skills. Personally I think this is a great thing.
  25. iPhil macrumors 68040



    I knew that Jobs' offered the free OS deal because it was on the national news and such .. the Gates' offer is kinda shocking to me :eek: :eek: ..

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