Black Box or Big Brother?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by cslewis, Sep 3, 2004.

  1. cslewis macrumors 6502a


    Jul 23, 2004
    40º27.8''N, 75º42.8''W
  2. MongoTheGeek macrumors 68040


    Sep 13, 2003
    Its not so much where you are as when you are.
    I understand the logic, its troublesome though.

    Most likely the 15% discount will be after a 20% increase for everyone and then the rates for the undiscounted will increase and then they will be canceled for various reasons as other insurance companies pick up with the idea. Eventually it will be mandatory with most insurance companies. Then they will add on yearly renewal checks and with insurance mandated by states we will have to put up with it. They say that the boxes can't track position but if you know where you start and the accelerations you can make a guess at locations so if you drive in certain neighborhoods you could be dinged as well.

    On the other hand all cars with airbags which are mandated by the government already have that telemetry information stored in them. Additionally similar information is stored by other computerized systems in the car for diagnostic purposes. OnStar is the mother of all Big Brothers and has been used to listen in on private conversations. Car based GPSes in addition to tracking acceleration and velocity track where you've been.
  3. jsw Moderator emeritus


    Mar 16, 2004
    Andover, MA
    On the one hand: You need a physical to insure your health. I don't see an issue with insurance companies basing fees on driving habits. Yes, I understand that it'll jack up rates in the long run if it doesn't improve driving habits. But I suspect that people with the box will drive better.

    On the other: black-market hacks will show up, allowing people to "prove" they're great drivers. They'll warp the system, making everyone pay more except for them and little old ladies who drive only to church and back. Also, the data would show someone who consistently drives 5 mph below the speed limit to be an excellent driver (no hard acceleration, no braking) even though they actually muck up traffic by driving like morons.

    The only solution, as far as I can see, are robot drivers. Nothing else will work. ;)

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