Blizzard To Try To Kill Twinks? Or at Least Try?

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    bobber205

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    Finally.

    This makes me really happy. :D

    What about you?

    Will this get rid of the level range matchups?
     
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    whooleytoo

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    I've never played any MMORPG, never mind WoW, so feel free to ignore...

    ..but from what I've read about twinking, I kind of like the idea because it mirrors the real world. Twinks are a bit like the rich kids/children of the teacher or boss who everyone resents because they feel they didn't have to work for what they have.

    It adds a bit of real-world social dynamics to the virtual world. ;)
     
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    bobber205

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    MMO's should be about having fun. Not about representing the sucky parts of real life. ;)
     
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    hopefully this will work wonderfully. wonder if they'll have to expand the 'battlegroups' though so queues will be nice and speedy still.
     
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    My twink issue: Loophole for Enchants

    As I understand it, enchants can be placed on an level of item, unlike, for example, Armor kits. This is just plain wrong! It's sick to hear alvl 19 priest bragging about their +55 healing enchant on their staff.

    How can BGs even be close to being fair with a loophole like this? Not all of us have guilds with a dozen lvl 70's or a sugar daddy main that tweaks their PvP twinks.
     
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    which is why this is being implemented. ;)
     
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    Well, the matchmaking service might make PvP more even, but it doesn't address the root problem of Enchants.
     
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    well the matchmaking system is gear based, so i'm hoping/guessing that it takes into account Enchants on one's gear.
     
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    Hmmm - the blurb above only mentions level 70 characters. There's no indication that this is going to be extended to all the other level ranges. I would guess that, at first, this will be restricted to level 70 as the primary differentiating factor at this level is gear. For the other brackets you would have the further complication of level differences too, and I would guess it would become overly complicated.

    In addition to enchants, they would also have to take account of gear in your bag, rather than just what you are wearing - I can see a situation where twinks would wear a crappy set to enter the BG and then swap to their high end stuff. Perhaps prevent you from re-equipping inside the battleground, but this would stop some legitimate tactics too.
     
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    i think it only mentions lvl 70s for going up against the blizz staff. which is understandable :p

    and yeah i think it takes into account the gear in your bag as well. this is needed more at the lower level BGs imo, than the higher ones. just my opinion though.

    and i don't know how many of their 'intentions' have made it into this implementation, but i'm happy they're at least this far along with it.
     
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    You know.. some people just want to do some BGs for fun while they are leveling up. That they don't spend loads of gold on gear and enchants doesn't make them idiots.
     
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    indeed. i love BattleGrounds. they break up the monotany of leveling.
     
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    I'm glad they're working to make battlegrounds a fair fight. I think this new system will be an exciting addition that'll make battles fun at all levels, not just x9!
     
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    combatcolin

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    Anyone can twink, its not an exclusive club.

    Once you have a high level char, you can give away items that you find/make/loot to your lower level characters.

    Very, very easy and straightforward to do.

    The only people who are at a disadvantage are those people playing the game new, but, as a counterbalance to this; with my main character, (Combatcolin Dreanor Euro) the WOW world was something almost quite magical the 1st time round.
     
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    I have no idea why they're trying to reward mediocrity. It's like the bs they try to pull in real life with this "self-esteem" and egalitarian ideology. If you are unable or unwilling to perform, you should not be rewarded. I mean, in WoW, everyone has equality of opportunity and it's not that hard to do arena or Kara for pretty decent epics so I don't get why we should be rewarding the noobs for being noob by pairing them up with other noobs. If people worked for their gear, they should be able to exploit the maximum amount of utility from it and farm the idiot PuGs for free honor.
     
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    blizz isn't trying to reward mediocrity. they're trying to make the game as accessible to the casual player as possible. this is why WoW is as big of a success as it is, imo.
     
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    They are. They're basically saying "even though we know you didn't in the same effort or have the same skill, we're going to give you the same reward instead of forcing you to do better."
     
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    I guess it seems like a good idea. i'd love to be able to PVP at all levels instead of just the X8's and X9's.
     
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    bobber205

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    Why do people support twinks?

    It's not "real" characters. They made the character for the pure intention of beating ONLY non-twinks. They don't make twinks to have a super battle against other twinks.

    That's why its unfair.
     
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    dan-o-mac

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    I don't think people really support twinks, it's just a matter of having to do it to stay competitive. Reminds me of Pro Bodybuilding, they keep stacking drugs cocktails to keep up or surpass one another.
     
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    bobber205

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    Yeah. Good point. I don't think it's right to stop people from being able to twink, just group those jerks together in the queues.

    I would rather have the level grouping done with and have it all stat/gear based.
    Then, if you were in a BG with level 30 players when you were 20, you would know you're doing pretty damn well. ;)
     
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    To each his own. If you want to twink in the 10-19 bracket fine. I choose the 70 bracket...
     
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    i wish i could just level to 70. twinking would be the last thing on my mind XD
     
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    And your using that icon! Tisk tisk :p
     

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