Blog much? DETENTION!

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by Sdashiki, May 24, 2006.

  1. Sdashiki macrumors 68040

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    I am not understanding how what students do outside of school can be used against them IN school? I understand if kids are blogging in the libraries, but what about the 1st Amendment?
     
  2. backupdrummer macrumors regular

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    I agree. Unless they post pictures of say drinking at any school sancitoned activity (games, concerts, property) I don't see anyway this would be held up in a court of law.

    A bigger concern is students opening up spaces as other students and framing them or teachers for that matter. Ona lesser scale I know friends of mine that have had multiple instances of people opening up accounts at classmates.com saying they were them and then posting false information. Pretty pedestrian in what could happen to an individual but on Myspace with rules like this it could become a sticky situation.
     
  3. calculus Guest

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    Gosh, next we'll be monitoring teachers to make sure they are not downloading child pornography...:rolleyes:
     
  4. lem0n macrumors regular

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    well, that might be a better idea :p at least they'll catch the pervert rather than kids for doing something silly
     
  5. clayj macrumors 604

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    This thread is probably gonna get punted to the Politics forum at some point, so I will be brief.

    I'm fairly sure that minors (anyone under the age of 18) are NOT guaranteed all of the freedoms mentioned by the 1st Amendment. You don't really have freedom of speech until you reach the age of majority. So, as long as the parents of the students don't object, a school system can sometimes impose rules that apply outside of school hours and the schoolgrounds if it's generally felt that doing so will be more beneficial than harmful.
     
  6. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    When I was in high school, we had a code of conduct that said whatever we do reflects both on us and the school. Granted this was a private school, and they were well within their rights to have that provision. But this is a public school, so the rules of the game are different.

    I can see both sides of this issue - what right does the school board have to tell a student what to do on his own time, and on the flip side, anything a student would do potentially reflects on his school.

    This doesn't make sense to me. How is it invading someone's privacy to have a look at things they posted for other people to look at in the first place?

    Isn't the first part of that prohibited already, except for 18 year old smokers in some states (it's 19 to smoke here)?

    Maybe if schools spent more time educating students (crazy idea I know) instead of wondering who was on the buddy lists, who knows what could happen.
     
  7. SamIchi macrumors 68030

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    This is stupid. Unless this is harming people in a threatening way, I don't see how the school can do this. I think it's ridiculous.
     
  8. clayj macrumors 604

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    These are the same sort of people who think that a telephone company turning over its own business records (e.g., lists of calls with to and from numbers) to the NSA is somehow an invasion of their privacy.

    Guess what: It ain't. Especially in this case, where the information is posted in a very PUBLIC place, MySpace.

    Well, I don't completely disagree with you. It's unfortunate that it's come to this, but it's too often the case now that kids post stuff on MySpace that accuses teachers of wrongdoing, for example. Careers have been ruined by students posting bogus information about teachers... it's the sort of thing that could also result in wrongful termination suits and libel suits against students. They want the freedom of speech, but they forget the corresponding responsibility to speak carefully and truthfully.
     
  9. Plymouthbreezer macrumors 601

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    It's pretty silly, and unnecessary.

    Thank god my school doesn't read my blog - not that I write anything too terrible. :rolleyes: :D
     
  10. iShane macrumors 6502a

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    Our school takes this WAY to extremely in my opinion. I can't get on here because there's a "marketplace":rolleyes:

    They even block google on some computers. Its crazy.
     
  11. adk macrumors 68000

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    It sounds like it's mainly aimed at athletes. Athletes are under pretty strict athletic codes that govern what they do out of school as well. Personally, I think this is of about the same magnitude as one of my football buddies getting suspended (from sports, not school) because a teacher overheard him say he got drunk that weekend. Not really concrete evidence, but kids basically sign their lives/rights away to play high school sports.
     
  12. muffinman macrumors 6502

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    Exactly. They block google at my school also. It's absolutely absurd!

    I blog a lot of "disagreeable" stuff. If my school district tried to censor my blog, or any others, it would be a grave moment indeed.
     
  13. amholl macrumors 6502

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    What tools. I am 14 and I think that parents should gove their kids some space. At least online. Ity should be a safe haven for kids whos parents are over protective. On the other hand, if these kids are stupid enough to get caught in real life, they deserve it.
     
  14. maestro55 macrumors 68030

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    The question here is how far will the school take this? Number one, as mentioned there is always those pranksters who could make false accounts. Also, what are they checking for? If I posted up (using my 1st admendment right.. and yes, as a minor I still have that right. Where does it say that I don't until I am 18?) a blog about how my Principal as a real ass and I talked about the reasons why he was an ass. While I could very well get in trouble for doing in this in school (even then I don't find it right.. as again I have freedom of speech/expression) if someone saw my blog and reported it to the Principal, with this system I suspect I could be in trouble with the school over this. That isn't right. So how far will they take this?
     

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