Bought a PC this weekend... feeling nervous!

Discussion in 'Macintosh Computers' started by h0kie99, Dec 29, 2004.

  1. h0kie99 macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2004
    Location:
    VA
    #1
    I love my iBook... LOVE IT. But I just started working in a new job where I must have a PC. So, I toyed with the idea of laptop vs desktop... since I already have an iBook, everyone was suggesting a desktop PC, but I can't be limited in my mobility with this new job. I don't need anything fabulous, just the basics. I'll do most of the work on my mac, and just the PC-related stuff on the PC. Anyway, I got a Dell laptop. I'm getting mixed messages from my friends regarding this choice. Some say Dell sucks. Others say that for what I need, it'll do me right.

    Not that there's anything I can do about it now, but... did I make an okay choice?? For $1200, I hope so!
     
  2. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5

    wrldwzrd89

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2003
    Location:
    Solon, OH
    #2
    I hope you bought a notebook that has a Pentium M inside. Those processors are the best Intel offers for notebooks. They say that battery life for a Pentium M-based notebook can be as high as 10 hours! Usually, Pentium M notebooks are marketed under the Centrino mobile technology brand, so if you see that Centrino logo on your Dell, feel confident that a Pentium M processor is inside (as well as a wireless card).
     
  3. h0kie99 thread starter macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2004
    Location:
    VA
    #3
    Yikes, this is what I got... (however, I'm not TOO concerned with a kick ass battery life... my main concern is that I didn't get screwed overall)

    Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 518 with HT Technology (2.80GHz, 533MHz FSB)
    Memory 512MB,333MHz,2 DIMMs
    Dell Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps) Mini-PCI card

    I only got 30GB of hard drive space because I don't need that much storage room -- especially since I have my iBook with all that space as well.
     
  4. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5

    wrldwzrd89

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2003
    Location:
    Solon, OH
    #4
    The hard drive's small, but if that's all you need, then I'd say you didn't get ripped off. You got a decent deal. It wasn't an incredible deal, but it's by no means horrible either.
     
  5. h0kie99 thread starter macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2004
    Location:
    VA
    #5
    Should I try and change it to the Pentium M model? It is about $150 more overall... but the speed is only 1.6GHz...?
     
  6. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5

    wrldwzrd89

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2003
    Location:
    Solon, OH
    #6
    That 1.6 GHz Pentium M absolutely spanks the 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 in terms of battery life, and gives it a good run for its money in raw performance too. Don't be fooled by the megahertz rating of the Pentium M - it's more powerful than it may first appear. Let me tell you one thing - a 1.6 GHz Pentium M will beat a 2.8 GHz Pentium 4 in a surprising number of benchmarks.
     
  7. ewinemiller macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2001
    Location:
    west of Philly
    #7
    A 1.6 Pentium M is about the same effective speed speed as a 2.8 Pentium 4. Depending on the task one or the other may be slightly better, but overall they are very similar in performance.
     
  8. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5

    wrldwzrd89

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2003
    Location:
    Solon, OH
    #8
    Like I said earlier, don't let the Pentium M's low megahertz fool you into thinking it's horribly slow. Thanks for the clarification ewinemiller. I guess it comes down to this: is an extra $150 worth it to you for an extra 5-9 hours of battery life?
     
  9. ftaok macrumors 601

    ftaok

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2002
    Location:
    East Coast
    #9
    C'mon, isn't this overstating the battery life a little? Does the Pentium M really get 5 to 9 hours more life than a Pentium 4? Assuming that a P4 gets 1.5 hours, that would be saying the PenM gets 6.5 to 10+ hours.

    I wonder what you would have to do to get 10+ on a single charge. Maybe have the screen turned off, the hard drive turned off, and just about everything else useful as well. ;)
     
  10. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

    mkrishnan

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2004
    Location:
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    #10
    Not to be argumentative or anything, but which are the Pentium M laptops that get 10 hours of life? Are you talking about 10 hours with a second battery pack that fits on the bottom of the computer (the ones where there is an extra slab the entire footprint of the notebook which goes on the bottom)?

    I looked at reviews of the V505, T40 series, and 700M and they all indicate 2.5-5 hours of life.

    If there are some that reliably get 10 hours, I might want one as a second computer.... There is a copy of MS Office for students in the family already that has unused licenses, so I wouldn't have to buy much software for it.
     
  11. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

    edesignuk

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2002
    Location:
    London, England
    #11
    It would have to be, there is no single battery that can power a laptop for 10hrs. My boss has a T42 with a 2nd battery which rather neatly fits in the hot-plug (CD/DVD/FDD) bay. On a VERY GOOD day he would just squeeze 10hrs out of that+the standard battery together.
     
  12. wrldwzrd89 macrumors G5

    wrldwzrd89

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2003
    Location:
    Solon, OH
    #12
    To be honest...I don't know. I thought that some Pentium M notebooks could get 10+ on a single charge, but I don't know which ones nor do I remember where I got that from. Just ignore my 10 hours of battery life claim, since I can't back it up.
     
  13. Converted2Truth macrumors 6502a

    Converted2Truth

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2004
    Location:
    Hell@HighAltitude
    #13
    My friend in law school just bought a Gateway 1.5 centrino laptop, and it only gets two hours battery life. All he's doing is typing. There's no way for any laptop to get that kind of life out of a battery. Sleep mode mixed with use maybe, but ya... no way

    Edit: Oh, and go with the centrino 100%. Those desktop processor laptops only get 30 minutes of battery life. I'm not kidding. You can't even watch half a DVD with them.
     
  14. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

    mkrishnan

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2004
    Location:
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    #14
    Hmmm, no worries. :) How great would it be if the iBook or PB 12" could get 10 hours? :D
     
  15. DougJrS macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2004
    Location:
    Kansas City
    #15
    I have (actually - I "have" it, but my company paid for it) a Dell latitude D600. If I am just working with non cpu intense applications (usually email and a TN3270 emulator) I can get 5~6 hours out a single battery. If I am just surfing the net I can get closer to 6~8 hours. I have gone 4 hours working away like I do when it is docked at work, but when I was done I didn't check to see how much of the battery was left.

    I have never used the DVD player while on battery, but my old Dell laptop would only play 1 on a full charge.

    Here are the specs for my system from support.dell.com:
    General Information
    Computer Model Latitude D600
    BIOS Vendor Dell Computer Corporation
    BIOS Version A13
    BIOS Date 07-09-04
    Windows Version Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
    Processor
    Manufacturer Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz
    Clock Speed 1.4GHz
    L2 Cache Size 1024
    Memory
    Available Memory 33.53 %
    Page File Size 1014.3Mb
    Available Page File 65.89 %
    Virtual Memory 1525.5Mb
    Available Virtual Memory 55.05 %
    Memory Slot 1 [DIMM_A] 512Mb
    Network Card
    Adapters Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Driver
    NOC Extranet Access Adapter
    Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
    Storage
    Drive Type Drive Size Total Available Space User Available Space
    C: NTFS 27.92Gb 21.98Gb 5.933Gb
    Hardware
    Type Description
    DVD/CD-ROM Drives HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8082N
    Disk Drives IC25N030ATMR04-0 27.94Gb
    Display Adapters Microsoft SMS Mirror Driver
    MOBILITY RADEON 9000 32Mb
    IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers Intel(r) 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller-24CA
    Primary IDE Channel
    Secondary IDE Channel
    Keyboards SMS Virtual Keyboard
    Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    Mice and Other Pointing Devices SMS Virtual Mouse
    Alps Touch Pad
    Monitors Default Monitor -
    Default Monitor - (Standard monitor types)
    Sound Devices SigmaTel C-Major Audio
    USB Controllers Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C2
    Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C4
    Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C7
    Intel (r) 82801DB/DBM USB Enhanced Host Controller


    Doug
     
  16. Steven1621 macrumors 6502a

    Steven1621

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2003
    Location:
    Connecticut
    #16
    i'd say if you plan to use your ibook predominately, why spend so much on a PC? You should have got a cheap desktop or a used laptop. just my thoughts though...
     
  17. bubbamac macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2003
    #17
    First things first.

    Before you ever hook you Dull up to the internet, use your iBook to go to www.zonelabs.com and download ZoneAlarm. Get the free version, they make you look for it! Burn it to a disc, and make sure that's loaded and running on your Dull before you ever hook up to the internet. Then, once you've got your internet hooked up, first thing is to install an anti-virus program, get it updated and set up. Then, run Windows Update until there aren't any more, and then - only then - open IE and download Firefox.

    And yes, Dell sucks nowadays. If you need customer service, under no circumstances go to the "home user" prompt if you can justify the "business user" prompt by any means. (this is for phone support, BTW)

    Good luck. I just spent 6 hours reinstalling Win98SE on the little lady's Dull after MSWord decided it didn't want to play nice. Can't just reinstall the app, no, that didn't work. Gotta start from scratch. Yea, that's right. One app has a bad day, you've got to reinstall the whole dang system.
     
  18. Squareball macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2004
    Location:
    Palo Alto, CA
    #18
    Of course you can download from your ibook FireFox, zonealarm and your anti-virus software's latest definition as well as (possibly) XP SP2 network installer (it lets you download the entier thing and install it from the exe). Once that is in place do the windows updates and then never open IE again ;)
     
  19. homerjward macrumors 68030

    homerjward

    Joined:
    May 11, 2004
    Location:
    fig tree
    #19
  20. Mechcozmo macrumors 603

    Mechcozmo

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2004
    #20
  21. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

    mkrishnan

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2004
    Location:
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    #21
    Seems like there ought to be a Windows user joke right about here. :D

    Oooh, got it: Once I realized that I could get the CD tray to stay open by holding down the power key while I already had it open, I found that I could get as much battery life as I needed from my laptop. Of course, I still don't understand why a coffee cup holder should need batteries.... :rolleyes:
     
  22. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

    mkrishnan

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2004
    Location:
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    #22
    Hmmmm...Yeah, seems a shame to take a 2 lb laptop and strap a huge battery on it. Also it seems to be a Transmeta, not a Pentium M..... Not that that's anything against it, just that we were discussing Pentium M vs. other Pentium line processors on the battery life front.....
     
  23. bubbamac macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2003
    #23
    I like the way you think!
     
  24. Rod Rod macrumors 68020

    Rod Rod

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2003
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    #24
    Is there a way of password-protecting applications in Windows XP? If I were to get a Windows machine for the house, could I set it up to require a password for IE to launch? Thanks.
     
  25. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

    edesignuk

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2002
    Location:
    London, England
    #25
    Not exactly. You could probably set permissions on the .exe to only allow certain users to execute it (You'd need NTFS & possibly Pro rather than Home). But if you did that to IE you'd probably cause a whole world of problems as IE is so deeply integrated in to XP.
     

Share This Page