burning a DVD out of an mp4

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  1. opusthe2nd macrumors 6502

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    I take a DVD movie and Handbrake it down to 858MB. I then want to make a DVD out of it. Seeing I am not sure how to do this, I import it to iMovie where it becomes over 20+G. What gives with that and what am I doing wrong? I just want to burn a DVD out of an mp4.
     
  2. ruzzian macrumors member

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    A DVD that you can watch in a DVD player, or just burn it to a DVD?

    Have you looked into getting toast? That is brilliant for burning things onto CD/DVD so they can be watched in players. You can usually make a VCD etc easily on it. I use that or DVD Studio Pro.
     
  3. opusthe2nd thread starter macrumors 6502

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    He wants to play it in a DVD player.

    I cant see buying software when OS X/Tiger is supposed to be the greatest thing since cracked corn. If I wanted an OS where I had to purchase software, I would go back to Windows (not lashing out at you, just making a statement).

    You mean to say there is nothing in Tiger that will allow you to do this efficiently? Imagine there must be something Open Source.

    After all, how do you turn 858MB into a 20G file?
     
  4. ITASOR macrumors 601

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    Convert it to dv format.
     
  5. Greenjeens macrumors regular

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    Get "mac the ripper" to rip a Video TS file. Then use Toast to burn the DVD.
    I use dual layer dvd's to avoid compression but they cost $2.50-3 a pop. Mac the ripper/toast allows elimantion of extraneous languages/extras to cut the file size down a bit. For single layer disc burning the magic number seems to be about 30% compression which still turns out pretty decent.
     
  6. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    What is your primary goal here?

    To duplicate/copy a DVD?
     
  7. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Another option:

    Use MacTheRipper to put it on your HD.

    Use DVD2OneX to compress.

    Use Toast to burn the DVD.

    Personally, I prefer DVD2OneX over Toast for compression. YMMV.
     
  8. risc macrumors 68030

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    But the OP doesn't think he should have to buy software no matter how good it is, I think he is looking for free or open source solutions only. No matter how good your recommendation is. ;)
     
  9. Greenjeens macrumors regular

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    I'm all ears, haven't used DVD2Onex, but after reading the reviews...can't say I'm excited to purchase it.
    http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19238

    I use compression very rarely.
    My Motto (so far): If it's worth the time to burn, it's worth full rate encoding.
    Is there some problem or lack of quality using Toast's compression function?
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  10. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    I've been using an earlier version of DVD2OneX. Works great. I've had no problems with it.

    Looks like they may have some problems with the newer version. Can't say one way or another since I haven't tried the newer version.

    I like the methodology that DVD2OneX uses to compress. Instead of demulxing the audio and video tracks, then compressing them, then rejoining them, DVD2OneX just looks at each frame to see where it can reduce the size. I tried the Tuskegee Airmen which has some beautiful airial footage. It looked great on a 56 inch projection TV as well as a 37 TFT TV that I tried.

    While not an expert, my friend and I could not tell the difference between the original and the copy on his 56 inch projection TV.

    One of these days I will try a side by side comparison again to check.

    But for now I will keep using DVD2OneX.
     
  11. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    True. True.

    However, as they say, you get what you paid for.

    I used to be the same way as the OP. Then after getting tired of the hassles, I just settled on what works decent and easy. So much more fun to do that way.

    ...and it doesn't cost that much.
     
  12. opusthe2nd thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I am getting to that point. Open Source was so great for FreeBSD, I thought it would be good for OS X as well. Why does Apple give such margianl software, like iMovie and iDvd with OS X? You think they would want to have one up on MS with their default application selection. Must say I am disappointed. I will get Toast I guess.
     
  13. ftaok macrumors 601

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    Well, what you are trying to do isn't what iMovie or iDVD is designed for. Apple's software is designed to take your home videos and transform them into nice home movies on DVDs.

    You're trying to back up your DVDs (or at least that's what is sounds like), which is not something Apples wants to get into facilitating. They'll leave that to 3rd party publishers (such as Roxio) to fill that void.

    ft
     
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  15. danny_w macrumors 601

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    Just out of curiosity, how did you do this? When I try to import a 253MB mp4 file into iMovie it tells me that the resulting file would be larger than 2GB and 9.5 minutes, and won't let me do it. I am using Panther; does Tiger remove this restriction?
     
  16. opusthe2nd thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Havent a clue! A friend was wanting it done and he was clueless too. I dragged the mp4 into iMovie. A few hours later, when it was done, I was curious to the size of it. When it was on the original DVD it was probably 7.5G, then it was compressed to mp4 down to 858MB. I really dont know how it got 3x biggger than it originally was.
     
  17. ftaok macrumors 601

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    danny,

    I think the 2GB clip size limit was removed in iMovieHD (aka iMovie 5).
     
  18. danny_w macrumors 601

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    Thank you! I rarely use iMovie, and hadn't noticed that I hadn't updated to the latest (I have iLife 5, but didn't install it).
     
  19. risc macrumors 68030

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    Ditto, I use version 1.4.2 and can see no reason to upgrade at all. It's a great app!

    I agree completely. I came to OS X after years of using Open Source UNIX like OSes, and was a bit spun out by the amount of shareware, but after a bit of searching I've got to say there are some amazing shareware apps out there, case and point would be ffmpegX a shareware frontend to a bunch of cli open source tools, sure I could sit there all day using the command line, or I could pay a few bucks and have everything happen with a few mouse clicks. On the open source OSes I used commercial software was pretty much non-existent so Photoshop versus The Gimp, Office v.X 2004 versus Open Office, World of Warcraft versus Tux Racer. As you said you get what you pay for!

    Personally I love OS X! I love that mix of open source, shareware, and commercial software all sitting on top of a UNIX like OS. You just don't get that anywhere else!
     
  20. PPGPilot macrumors newbie

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    I have a Samsung Miniket camera and put the video on DVD to annoy friends with my flying endeavours.
    As you did I Import the mp4 video to IMovie that creates a large DV file like in your case 20 GB but when you Create a IDVD Project the file will get compressed back down to MPEG2 files.
    My experience is as long as you have less than 1 hour of content it will fit on a single layer DVD.
     
  21. opusthe2nd thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I have since got Toast...I caved!

    When I tried to send it to iDvd, it said 'too big', and that was that.
     
  22. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    So are you trying to duplicate a commercial DVD?

    Or are you trying to create your own DVD?

    Just wanted to verify because the methodology is quite different. Reading through the thread I get the impression that you want to duplicate (make a backup copy of) a commercial DVD that you own. Is that correct?
     
  23. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Same version that I use. Been so pleased with it, that I haven't even gone to their website to see if there was a new version.

    Yep, ffmpegX is good. Though I haven't used it much, it seems to be be easy to use and works fine.

    Love the shareware environment.

    You mentioned Office 2004 vice Open Office. Open Office and others seem so good in concept but when you get down to really using them they come up short when working with MSFT documents.

    You know, if I were BG, I would be developing MSFT Office like they did in the old days and do it for the Winders, Mac and Linux/Unix community. Make them all identical, and completely interchangeable. And offer the same apps on each platform.

    I would offer the personal edition with: Word, Excel and PowerPoint. And the professional edition with the addition of: Outlook and Access.

    And this would hold true of all language versions. Unlike now, for example, the Japanese personal edition for Windows only has Word and Excel. The professional version adds PowerPoint. However, there is no Access.

    I would create one install CD with all three versions on it. When you purchase Office, you would get a mini site license for 1 copy of each to be installed on your local network. So you could have 1 Windows computer, 1 Mac computer and 1 Linux computer running office at the same time on your home network with no conflicts.

    Back when Office 97 PC and Office 98 Mac were current it was so nice to use since the menus and such were the same on each computer. It made it so convenient to take work home at night. Very transportable.

    Now days, it sucks since the versions are so different. Even within the Windows side there is incompatability. And the menus/functions between Office 2000, XP and 2003 are very different. Let alone the Mac version of X or 2004. What is MSFT thinking?! It sure isn't for the customer.

    On a side note. I can't wait for Vista. NOT!
     
  24. opusthe2nd thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I was trying to backup a commercial DVD that I own. Got Toast now so I am good to go.
     
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    Roger. Good to hear! :D
     

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