Bush Administration Shelved MTBE Ban

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  1. zimv20 macrumors 601

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  2. wwworry macrumors regular

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    MTBE is the stuff that makes your gas stink in the winter and adds a special price to the cost. So you could say that this is a gift to a contributer at the expence of the consumer. Has it ever been any different?
     
  3. numediaman macrumors 6502a

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    Then there is this . . .

    When it rains, EPA would let waste pour

    Plan could boost dumping into lake
    By Michael Hawthorne, Tribune staff reporter
    Published February 15, 2004

    The Bush administration wants to make it easier for cities to release partially treated sewage during heavy rains and snowmelts, a policy shift that could boost levels of disease-causing pathogens in Lake Michigan and other waterways.

    Sewage spills into the lake already are a source of E. coli and other bacterial "bugs" that frequently lead to beach closings during the summer. Chicago banned swimming at Lake Michigan beaches 130 times last year; there were 178 beach closings in Lake County.

    Under a policy change pushed by the Environmental Protection Agency, municipal sewage plants around the lake and across the country would gain explicit authority during wet weather to skip a required treatment that kills most of the bacteria, viruses and parasites in wastewater.

    Some EPA officials have privately fought against the proposal, noting the agency rejected a similar policy in the early 1980s because partially treated sewage may still contain potentially harmful pathogens.

    Plant operators and business interests have continued to lobby for the practice, which they call "sewage blending."
     
  4. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for the MTBE update. It had fallen below my horizon. When did this first break? 1995-ish? Santa Monica's water supply problems were rather highly publicized. I had thought EPA was gonna rescind its support of using the stuff. "Clean up the air, dirty up the water."

    The issue of sewage which hasn't been fully treated and release into rivers and streams reminds me of an event of 1970, where I first realized that governments have no conscience. Hurricane Celia was supposed to dump rains of up to eight inches in central Texas. So, for three days in advance of the arrival of these rains, the City of San Antonio dumped raw sewage into the San Antonio River. Unfortunately, it didn't rain more than an inch or so; Celia was a rather dry hurricane.

    The end result was that the City paid a fine of $3,000 per day. Big deal. That's probably the cost to the City had they done proper treatment...

    Austin, the Home of the Environmentally Sensitive, was no better. The anti-growth people managed to kill bond issues for additional sewage treatment facilities. Growth occurred, anyway. The ensuing overload on existing plants resulted in pollution of the Colorado River, to the detriment of all the towns downstream as well as fish and critters.

    Maybe that's why in all these political events I'm merely less disgusted with one group than another. They're all disgusting. I guess that's why I moved to where the only "folks" who crap in my water supply are deer and coyotes. :D

    'Rat
     
  5. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    Another example of Bush looking out for big business and not the american citizen. This guy is so out of touch with whats going on it almost amazing. He even made me do something i had never done as a independent and that was vote in a Democratic Primary. I love Nascar but George is got to go. My biggest fear is how long it will take to undo all the damage he has created.
     
  6. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    Another footnote to the MTBE story: California banned MTBE some time ago, but since then, the state's been required to replace this additive with ethanol. The state submitted a request to the EPA for a waiver from ethanol use on the grounds that the state can meet federal clean air standards without ethanol, and because ethanol actually causes an increase in air pollution during the summer months. The EPA refused to consider the waiver request. The state challenged the EPA in federal court, which found that the EPA had violated the Clean Air Act -- but last I heard, the EPA had not taken the court's decision to heart and still hadn't reviewed California's waiver request.
     
  7. wwworry macrumors regular

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    Not to mention the medicare provisions that say that states can not bargain with drug producers over cost and can not buy the same drug cheaper from Canada. Talk about a multi-billion $ anti competitive anti consumer give-away.

    But that's another thread.
     
  8. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    its just one thing after the next, just when you think enough something else comes up like MTBE. I got a big kick out of Bush's special interest commercial against Kerry when Bush had racked up more special Interest money in 4 yrs then Kerrys Entire career. amazing
     
  9. zimv20 thread starter macrumors 601

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    Re: Then there is this . . .

    lovely. that's my drinking water.

    thanks for posting that; i had missed it.
     
  10. pseudobrit macrumors 68040

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    We've had MTBE leak into the water table around here. It requires a very extensive, costly and largely ineffective cleanup effort.

    I forget what the ratio is (if someone knows, I'd like to hear it again), but one drop of this stuff can ruin quite a bit of water, and there's no practical, conventional way to treat it out of the water.
     

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