Bush approval dips below 40 percent

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  1. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    Down to 807 samples and the margin of error goes up to 3.4.

    But these are terrible numbers for Bush. Nothing he's done in the last 3 months has helped him at all. Tiny bump from Roberts, but that's it.
     
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    and the indictments, if any, will be handed down before the month's out. if there are indictments, i wonder how low bush's numbers can go.
     
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    I'd love to see a poll with one question:

    Do you think this country is going to hell in a handbasket?

    a) pretty much
    b) not really

    From my informal polling, the "pretty much" numbers are way, way ahead!
     
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    Aww...poor Not-so-Curious George! I'm sure Daddy will get him a new oil field to make him feel better. :)
     
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    At present, I couldn't vote for either (a) or (b) without some further development of what "hell" is and what "handbasket" would be; but I am concerned with what would seem to be an eroding morale within the country.
     
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    This is what amazes me, its clear we have people in this country who put Party before Country. How is this guy getting 40% with all the crap he has done. Mr Bush why are we in Iraq if there wasnt WMDs? Seems lots of non fighting republicans like this policy of change the policy. We are now Nation Building or is it fighting them there so we dont fight them here?. I wonder how many Iraq insurgents we created by going into Iraq in the first place. How did we forget so fast that those 911 bombers were Saudi's :confused:
     
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    A while ago I would have thought the floor was 40% that were committed enough they will support him no matter what. Then Katrina came and his promise of 'spending whatever it takes' blew out his support among his fiscally conservative base, while simultaneously not getting him any support from the rest of the country who no either no longer believe anything he says, or are so fed up with the other problems (Iraq, gas, corruption deficit etc) that they can't support him no matter what he says.

    Then he goes and nominates Miers and blows out any remaining support from the religious right.

    Now I wouldn't be surprised to find his numbers in the high 20s/low 30s after the Plame investigation wraps up.

    The only thing that could rally his base right now would be withdrawing Miers and nominating a Scalia or Thomas -- with a vagina of course. But I don't think Bush has the stomach or political capitol for that kind of fight in the Senate. And I think Rove is worried about his own skin these days -- he seems off his game.
     
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    Eww... Scalia with a vagina... Gross... But you're absolutely right. Who knows why he nominated Meiers? It's a mystery, but yep, Rove was off of his A-game.

    The administration will also hit another low this winter when heating bills are 50% higher than last year. And then yet another low next year when mortgage rates climb another point next year and the housing market takes a hit. And then yet another low when the new Iraq constitution is a failure

    Lots of suffering for the administration (and our poor country) in the pipeline.
     
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    i'm not convinced he's still playing, at least 100% of the time.
     
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    They can always blame the Democrats, and Mother Nature, in that order, and about a third of the country will accept the explanation without question.
     
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    And it drops a little lower again:
    (And for those interested in polling, click through to the link. The Pew Research Group is very professional, and the linked report on the poll is very thorough, including methodology, the original questionnaire, and a detailed demographic breakdown available.)
     
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    Clinton?! Hell, Bush is making Jimmy Carter look good.
     
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    I have been thinking the same thing :D I wonder how many Republicans Bush is turning away. Why anyone would want to label themself a Republican/Democrat these days is beyond my Republican upbringing.
     
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    By comparison, Jimmy Carter was good. Let's put it this way: don't expect George W. Bush to be up for any Nobel prizes when he retires from office.
     
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    Although Bush may yet wrest the 'Biggest Douche in the Universe' award from John Edwards .
    :p
     
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    The psychic John Edwards, not the politician BTW. ;)

    Besides, Kerry's the douche. Bush is the crap sandwich. :p
     
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    i'm actually surprised that nobody blamed Carter so far for the Katrina chaos .. after-all the FEMA was founded under his presidency ;)

    personally i don't understand why he is so unpopular...
     
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    nor do i. he was a smart guy w/ some good policies.

    i think it's two things that are lasting:
    1. high energy prices
    2. inability to deal w/ the iran hostage crisis
     
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    Don't forget branding by the right. Carter is portrayed as a bumbling fool who precipitated the rise of The Great Communicator. The worse they can make Carter out to be, the better Reagan looks in their minds.

    Also don't forget that the attacks on Carter have been vicious and numerous by the right. IIRC, Carter was on the list of '100 people who are screwing up America'. He's been accused of playing 'for the other side'; IOW treason. I can't think of another president, with the possible exception of Nixon, who has been treated so savagely after leaving office by his opposition.
     
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    and he responded by continuing to work for peace and to improve the plight of the poor. a truly great man, imo.
     
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    Oh, I agree completely. It's just that Carter is always held up as the supposed "nadir" of all the presidents, ever. Sure it's unfair. But it's been an extremely successful smear, just like Reagan's turning "liberal" into a "bad" word.
     
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    and that sounds high for mr. shrub ;)
     

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