Bush, Where's My Job??? (The End Of Unions?)

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Spizzo, Sep 30, 2004.

  1. Spizzo macrumors 6502

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    As a Union Worker, I am scared for my job. Bush has made it known that he is against unions, and has been trying to limit workers rights. He cut federal workers right to a collective bargining agreement, and has tried to take our overtime away. He's given tax breaks to company's who ship their jobs over seas, and given tax breaks to company's who dont pay taxes. (source)

    Why do we sit and do nothing while our president takes away what makes us Americans??? He wages wars to keep us distracted, all while filling his family's and friend's pockets full of cash. I think this needs to stop. Here are the facts (from a non-partisan site).

    http://www.aflcio.org/issuespolitics/politics/kerry_compare.cfm

    I'm not really a big fan of Kerry, but he does have America's best intrests in mind, and not Big Business. American Can't afford to be raped by Bush for four more years.

    Picture contains some bad language, but it's the truth:
    http://www.activeopposition.com/images/Picture Archive/Copy of corporate america.jpg
     
  2. mischief macrumors 68030

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    I'm staying only because I can't earn enough to save up and move (back) to Canada.
     
  3. blackfox macrumors 65816

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    I'm staying only because no Canadian will marry me (yet) and I am not smart enough to figure out another way in...

    ...so I will continue working on my drinking habit...because if my immediate surroundings no longer make sense to me, then the larger picture is totally lost.

    Perhaps it is because I watched a movie concerning this the other day, but I feel somewhat like a Parisan circa 1940...
     
  4. mischief macrumors 68030

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    Despite popular belief you don't need a drinking problem to be Canadian. ;)

    As to the Citizenship issue....

    Do you have kids?

    Canada has a little known immigration policy for young families aimed at bringing in children to revitalize an aging populace.

    Did you vote for Gore?

    For a while (may still be true) you could apply for Political Assylum if you voted Democratic in 2000.
     
  5. Spizzo thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Hopefully something like this will happen in 2004 too!!! :D
     
  6. blackfox macrumors 65816

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    haha...

    no kids, but I could get some if needed...or at least enjoy trying.

    I did vote for Gore, but lived in Texas at the time, so they might cancel each other out.

    It is funny you mention the political asylum, though, as the last time I went up to Vancouver BC, when asked at the border why I was coming to Canada, I replied " do you know what is going on here? Wouldn't you?" I got waved through...
     
  7. Lyle macrumors 68000

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    The AFL-CIO is a non-partisan organization?
     
  8. Lyle macrumors 68000

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    Considering that the party's symbol is a donkey, one could probably apply for "assylum" any year one chooses to vote Democrat. :rolleyes:
     
  9. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    My uncle saw a sign that said, "Drink Canada Dry." He's been trying ever since.

    BADA-BOOMP!
     
  10. mischief macrumors 68030

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    Are you implying Eddie Murphy is crazy? :confused:

    Or are you using pop-symbolism to make a weakly cutting (dulling?) political dis?

    To trade dis for dat: Pachyderms generate a whole lot more excreta than the common donkey.
     
  11. Taft macrumors 65816

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    Pachyderm? That is one high-brow dis. :D

    Taft
     
  12. mischief macrumors 68030

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    Donkey-shane. Heee Haw!!! :D ;)
     
  13. makisushi macrumors 6502

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    I am against unions as well. I guess I am more of a capitalist than a socialist. I think that people should work hard for their money. Not to way that workers in Unions are not hard workers, but one of the side effects of a Union is that some members take advantage of the situation and tend not to work as hard.

    I have done tons and tons of design work for non-profits and advocacy groups and they all require their stuff to be printed with a union printer. I can honestly say that I can get my stuff done much quicker at a non-union shop.

    It is like the welfare program. In theory, it is a good idea, but in real application someone comes along and starts abusing it.
     
  14. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    Unions came into existence because of weak labor laws and they are a waste of time and money in today's society. I'm all for getting rid of the unions but only if we get stronger labor laws. Unfortunately that isn't ever going to happen because big business will start whinging about government intervention and the unions have become too politically powerful. Certain things should have a natural lifespan instead of being granted immortality.
     
  15. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    I dont think it matters much because our govt (George Bush) is giving the major companies plenty of reasons to get the heck out of the U.S and few to stay. So we wont have any factories making anything hence no need for Union or non Union workers. its not end of unions its the end of made in USA. look at Apple any American products? its all made in China. at least my Alienware was assembled in the U.S as was my Quicksilver. :)
     
  16. mischief macrumors 68030

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    Hmm.... So between outsourcing and disgruntled populace we'll see all the jobs AND all the talent move to Canada, Ireland, Britain, etc.

    All that will be left is the CEO's and the middle-mangement suck ups... Perhaps it's all a secret plan.
     
  17. Lyle macrumors 68000

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    Ugh. You have put me in the uncomfortable position of having to decide whether this joke went over your head and you really don't get it, or if you are just pretending to not get it.

    You misspelled "asylum" as "assylum" in your previous post. And a donkey is (according to one definition) a domesticated ass. And the traditional symbol for the Democratic party is the donkey. So I was just being a jerk about the spelling mistake and taking advantage of it to comment on the natural link between the Democratic party and all things in the donkey milieu.

    I would guess that your interpretation (that I think Eddie Murphy is crazy) involves some tortured combination of his character in the Shrek movies and maybe a mental asylum. I really didn't mean for you to work that hard on it.
     
  18. Lyle macrumors 68000

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    I have seen some bad puns in this forum, but this one really sets the bar to a new high (or low, depending on your perspective). ;)
     
  19. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    It was a beer pun. Very Löwenbrau.
     
  20. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    it doesn't take a guinness to come up with a beer pun.
     
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    You have a point. There would be no need for unions if we gave everybody overtime for over 40 hours work, period. If everyone had access to affordable health insurance in their workplace. That we got back to dumping their company stock when they have lay-offs as opposed to rewarding them with increases in their stock price. That employees were looked upon as a limited resource, not something that can be disposed of.

    It is the threat of unions that keep many companies on the right side of their employees.
     
  23. mischief macrumors 68030

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    Where's Norton Threadchecker when I need it? :p

    If I was engaging in a formal debate with an all Oxford-English crowd I may give a rats' donkey about the specifics of spelling and (get ready) simantics.

    There's been entirely too much kvetching over mixed grammatical discepline of late on this Forum. I chose to respond with an equally silly nonsequitur.

    One more episode of buttclenching like that and I'll be forced to taunt you a second time. ;) :rolleyes:
     
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  25. mischief macrumors 68030

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    *Whooooooooosh!*

    *SPLAT!*

    Elderberry pie for you. :D
     

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