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Discussion in 'Community' started by Toe, Nov 18, 2004.
November 26 is Buy Nothing Day!
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November 26th is National Flossing Day
The day after Thanksgiving has ALWAYS been buy nothing day for me. Not out of principal, but mainly because I am still recovering from gorging myself on tryptophan-filled turkey, stuffing, alcohol, football, and inane conversations with my parents.
Why would I want to venture out into the stores with hordes of people scrambling to buy things "on sale" that could easily be had online at half the expense and half the effort?
sounds like the lice from some hippie's dreadlocks is controlling their brain. seriously, brah, take a shower.
At least it's something.
Beat's consuming everything in sight until we're wallowing in one whole planet full of garbage.
WTF, that's a Pay Day! No way! Oh wait, we have that Friday off... hmm, I wonder how that's gonna work...
Just what exactly is the point of this? All it is is postponing purchases to another day.
So what if you run out of floss on November 26 and you want to go out to buy some more? I see a major conflict of interest here.
Not really - I did say it was National Flossing Day, so you could go out and buy some floss to celebrate....
Besides, if you'd like to celebrate both, and you run out of floss you can always borrow some...
I hope it is not buy nothing day. That is the opening day of the season for my grandparents Christmas tree farm.
My question is how many people actually buy nothing. How affective is this anti-capitalism holiday?
I will head out to the mall early that day, looking for some "Buy Nothing Day" T-shirts to give all of my friends as holiday gifts.
Note: It's also a full moon that evening, so watch out for werewolves.
At this point I don't have any plans of going out that day. A holiday for everything it seems.
No, really, you can keep it. I don't want it back.
The purpose of this day is?
To show that on one day you can stop capitalism, but the next day you will go back and buy stuff?
That's not so strange. It's the first step to kicking any habit, as for today's Great American Smokeout.
Yeah, I've got some adbusters lying around. I especially like their Spoof Ads although they no longer show "Hitler Wore Khakis" on their website.
I try to walk a very fine line when it comes to consumption and brand name ogling. For starters, I'm typing this on a TiBook with an iPod playing in the background so i can't exactly get on a soapbox and start taking verbal runs at people. But I do try to keep my possessions at a minimum. That's not to say I constantly purchase and pitch - I am extremely selective and sometimes it it borderline OCD.
All in all, I think adbusters is going after the hording - the it's-five-for-ten-bones-so-I'll-buy-five-even-though-I-only-need-one mentality.
Haha so hoping for a 10% off sale from Apple and buying a new eMac would be pretty against the rules?
Excellent idea! Screw capitalism! I hope we go back to hunt-and-gather. Those were the days! Jobs? Who needs them? Now, which grubs are the edible ones? All of them? Excellent.
Please. If you were in a country that was as anti-capitalist as you seem to hope for, you wouldn't be able to send this email.
Just because you don't turn Amish doesn't mean that everyone agree's with the modern capitalist structure. I use this stuff because it's here. I could definitely do without it. In fact, its this stuff that holds us down. We take jobs so that we can pay for electricity and mortgage payments and other crap that we don't really need. I could care less about that. I'd be happy in a thatch hut on the beach. Good luck finding a significant other who will agree to that though. Communism (actually, the socialist, not full on communist structure that was imposed) didn't work because the human race wasn't ready for it, not because it was inferior to capitalism.
Anyways, yeah, I'll participate in buy nothing day.
I think there is balance between giving in to needless materialism and communism. I'm familiar with Adbusters, and I believe that "Buy Nothing Day" simply raises awareness to the fact that you do not need to spend massive amounts of money to enjoy the holidays in-fact spending that much money and putting that much energy into pure lustful capitilism will damage the fun of the holidays.
If you flip on a television anytime from November to December you will see a holiday culture that religiously spends credit busting amounts of money to give gifts. You see ads with christmas trees that light a room completely full of gifts. Finding the perfect and usually expensive gift for someone who means something to you is necessary in showing them that you love them.
If anything just do one thing this holiday season, think about what Best Buy, Barnes and Nobel, Target, and any mall really want out of you. Then think about what you really need for your friends and family to have an awesome holiday season.
There's a difference between sensible living and Luddism.
I'm all for having a fast Mac, good healthcare, and a comfortable home. But I don't see a need for a seventeenth TV, three hundred pairs of shoes, or a cozy for my shaving cream. Consumerism in America (and to a lesser extent any other Americanized country) is rampant to the point of utter desturction.
And at this time of year it can be just sickening. I see people buying cart-loads of crap. They take it home and wrap it up in high-impact paper. Then later, others remove that paper, the plastic wrapper, the cardboard box, the foam padding, and the paper inserts and throw them all away. Then they take the "product" of whatever sort, and shove it in a closet somewhere for a few years, then send it to join the rest of the package in the landfill or incinerator.
What the heck are we doing? All that material comes at a heavy cost to our air, water, land, and ecosystems. We're ruining everything around us because ads tell us that we have to buy lots of stuff.
And as for your reference to consumerism being necessary for maintaining jobs, I think that is silly. That's like saying we should have kept using typewriters to keep the typewriter workers in jobs. Destroying our entire ecosphere might have some short-term positive effects on employment, but in the long run it screws us all.
Oh, and while I'm ranting...
I'm sick of these correlations between jobs and environmental destruction. Is that the only way we can survive as a society, in direct proportion to how much we destroy? Doesn't that seem like something we should be trying to get away from?
My PowerBook is much more technologically advanced than, say, a Mac II. Yet it took fewer bulk resources to produce, and it consumes far less energy to operate. That's progress for both the economy and the environment.
Likewise, a job programming software pays more than a job manufacturing televisions. The former produces almost no material waste, while the latter produces tons (literally). So why do we have to consume more material to produce better jobs?
I think with the technological progress we've been experiencing, we're close to not having to have jobs. Why should we keep fighting to get jobs for people who don't want to work anyway? What's the point of giving someone a job mindlessly putting Part A into Slot B? Just so we can ruin the environment for the next generation? It's already hard to even breathe in an urban setting.
I will for one buy nothing but needed basics during the span between Thanksgiving and Christmas, as much as possible. Any spare money (not much given the realities of the US job market), will go to charities.
Sorry, but unless you turn your lights, heat, etc. off, as well, you're still buying SOMETHING...
And if you want to consider taxes paying for a service from the government, then you better figure out a way to swear off government protection for 24 hours and then deduct that period from your taxes...This, however, is a more questionable interpretation, I suppose.