Buying a PC?

Discussion in 'Mac Help/Tips' started by robotrenegade, Mar 18, 2003.

  1. robotrenegade macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2002
    Location:
    Greenville,SC
    #1
    Sorry guys, but i need to own both PC and Mac platforms. I need a PC so i can test my projects on windows and mac format and play some games here and there. I was wondering what your guys thoughts were a good pc is?(Sony/Alienware) I'm looking for something that i can own for a while.(not have to upgrade in 4 months) I would like it to work with my 802.11b basestation / Apple cinema displays / firewire ports / file sharing. I don't care about- CD burners/ floppy drive / big HD.
     
  2. patrick0brien macrumors 68040

    patrick0brien

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Location:
    The West Loop
    #2
    -robotrenegade

    My professional PC preference is Sony for the quality and [Apple-like] included tech.

    My second choice would be IBM for the solidity and industrial nature. Also remember, DOS and Windows were originaly written for IBM MoBos, and still require the lease hardware drivers for the software.

    AlienWare, while nice, such a specialized high-end machine most likely skew the results of your testing effors thus negating the value. Get a nice machine, but one closer to the reality of your client base.

    I hope this helps.
     
  3. vniow macrumors G4

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2002
    Location:
    I accidentally my whole location.
    #3
  4. hugemullens macrumors 6502a

    hugemullens

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2002
    Location:
    Michigan
    #4
    I like the sony pc's. They have a nice software bundle and are pretty cool looking. Alienware seems to be overpriced for what you get in my opinion. Make sure you graphics card has DVI so you can get the adapter to run a cinema display.
     
  5. vniow macrumors G4

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2002
    Location:
    I accidentally my whole location.
    #5
    re: Sony

    The only reason I can think of that people would buy Sony PCs is because they're pretty.

    My parents just bought one not too long ago (over a cheaper eMac nonetheless, grrrrr) and while it had some decent hardware, the software really really really stinks.

    It's featureless, horribly managed, ugly and not user friendly by a long shot, when my sister wanted to burn some of her songs on a CD with the supplied software, she couldn't because she couldn't figure it out and neither could I. There was no 'burn' button anywhere and the help files were no help at all! (she even said she missed iTunes, hee hee hee...)

    I could go on and on about the photo and video editing/managing software but I think you get the drift that it's poorly designed.

    The hardware specs are decent but hardly impressive and the case is not one that will accept upgrades very easily.

    So coming from the daughter of a couple who just bought a brand new Sony I can say that they're not all they're cracked up to be.
     
  6. lmalave macrumors 68000

    lmalave

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Location:
    Chinatown NYC
    #6
    I'd have to second this. You can get so much more bang for your buck. You can build yourself the equivalent of an Alienware or a high-end Sony for less than half the price.
     
  7. hugemullens macrumors 6502a

    hugemullens

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2002
    Location:
    Michigan
    #7
    Re: re: Sony

    Really? I've never really used one but my mom had a old viao desktop and a R505 and she really liked the software package. She is FAR from a poweruser but used the jukebox software and whatever photosoftware came with it. I guess i always thought better of sony's software. We still have the R505 (until the 12incher gets here, should be thursday or friday), i'll have to check it out.
     
  8. yogi477 macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2002
    Location:
    England
    #8
    PC Laptops

    In addition to this thread, one of my freinds at college is wating a PC laptop for uni, his budget is anything up to £900 but I guess he could go beyond that if there was somethig really worth it. He will only need word processing, web surfing etc etc but not bad specs so Champ Man will run without taking a week to do a match. Any thoughts on what is best....IBM, Sony, Toshiba?
     
  9. MrMacMan macrumors 604

    MrMacMan

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2001
    Location:
    1 Block away from NYC.
    #9
    If your good with a Pc and non't need tech support then buy one easily shaves a good half off your price. I did it with my friend, good machine, AMD processor... killer.
    I third this.
     
  10. steeleclipse macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2002
    Location:
    Canada
    #10
    DONT BUY SONY!

    I do a little PC tech work on the side, and Sony breaks down the most frequently, they are hard to troubleshoot, and support is terrible. In fact I have a VAIO sitting here ready to be worked on right now :D

    They also get the award for most useless software bundle!

    The desktops and especially laptops that i work on the least is IBM's. They have outstanding support too (Apple take note!)
     
  11. steeleclipse macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2002
    Location:
    Canada
    #11
    BTW when I say Apple should take note... I mean Applecare phone support
     
  12. robotrenegade thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2002
    Location:
    Greenville,SC
  13. scem0 macrumors 604

    scem0

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2002
    Location:
    back in NYC!
    #13
    I got a real great PC (good to go out of the box) for $700 on
    eBay. NEVER BUY A MAC ON EBAY, but PCs sell ultra cheap.
    Companies, and individuals, make their living by custom building
    PCs and selling them on eBay. So check eBay out if you haven't
    already.

    Custom building it would be even cheaper, but you won't have
    to worry about the hassle if you order it already built, and wouldnt
    have to worry about messing up etc. ;)
     
  14. vniow macrumors G4

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2002
    Location:
    I accidentally my whole location.
    #14
    Re: PC Laptops


    My dad likes his Toshiba notebook that was provided by his job, it's pretty thin, but doesn't come with an optical drive but it's of pretty good build quality.

    Fujitsu and Sharp also make good notebooks I hear and you should also look out for the new ones with the Centrino chipset.
     
  15. scem0 macrumors 604

    scem0

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2002
    Location:
    back in NYC!
    #15
    yeah, wireless internet access is a BIG plus on a laptop. ;)

    (porn anywhere.) :rolleyes:
     
  16. caveman_uk Guest

    caveman_uk

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2003
    Location:
    Hitchin, Herts, UK
    #16
    Re: Re: PC Laptops

    The IT guys at work seem to swear by Toshiba and Compaq(not HP) laptops and swear at Dell ones...
     
  17. iWantAMac macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2003
    Location:
    AUS
    #17
    Yeah, my father gets on with his Toshiba Satellite really well. I've only ever used two Dell machines in my life, both were notebooks, and both gave me bad impressions. From my own, personal experience, I would also say that Sony's VAIO range are of good quality, contrary to steeleclipse's opinion.
     
  18. Bear macrumors G3

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Location:
    Sol III - Terra
    #18
    Re: Re: Re: PC Laptops

    Toshiba is real good. IBM Thinkpads are good. Some say Sony laptops are good.

    The toshiba Satellite series have been very rugged in my experience.

    I've heard too many complaints about Dell, Gateway and COmpaq laptops.
     
  19. Bear macrumors G3

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Location:
    Sol III - Terra
    #19
    Re: Buying a PC?

    To answer your question, buy the fastest processor you can afford, the best video card, and buy the biggest dimm(s) of ram you can get. You can add more ram later, but don't waste money and slots by buying small memory dimms.

    Sony's have firewire ports. Dell allows you a fairly good customization range for their computers.

    You can get 802.11b/g cards for any system. firewire ports can be added. You will need adapter cables to hook a PC to an Apple Cinema Display.
     
  20. robotrenegade thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2002
    Location:
    Greenville,SC
    #20
    Will the 802.11g work with my 802.11b hub? If I get the ATI 9700 can't just hook straight to the card?
     
  21. Bear macrumors G3

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Location:
    Sol III - Terra
    #21
    Yes 802.11b and 802.11g work together, just that they talk at 802.11b speeds.

    The ATI card for the PC won't have the ADC connector on it. It will have some combination of DVI and/or S-VGA connectors.

    And there is guarantee that the Mac version of the card will work with drivers for MS Winblows.
     
  22. robotrenegade thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2002
    Location:
    Greenville,SC
    #22
    DDR vs RDRAM

    I've heard both are better. Any info?
     
  23. Bear macrumors G3

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Location:
    Sol III - Terra
    #23
    Re: DDR vs RDRAM

    You want DDR RAM.

    Somewhere in the forums there was an extensive discussion of the two. Go with DDR RAM. You'll save a bundle and get better berformance.
     
  24. Grimace macrumors 68040

    Grimace

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2003
    Location:
    with Hamburglar.
    #24
    Definitely check out www.accessmicro.com

    Go to build to order complete systems (or even barebones)

    You put in exactly what you want, and they have a very good turnaround time. I've used a bunch of different companies to build PCs and this one is solid. Almost all of the major brand PC makers - Dell, Sony, Gateway - put sh*t components inside and slap their name on the front. They are just glorified typewriters! Pick your parts and save thousands! :D
     
  25. steeleclipse macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2002
    Location:
    Canada
    #25
    really... how many have you owned and/or worked on? :D
     

Share This Page