Can Vista display PDFs out of the box?

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  1. nagromme macrumors G5

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    Do you still need Acrobat Reader with Vista, or is PDF viewing built-in like with Macs?

    (What about PDF creation?)

    I know most PC makers bundle Reader anyway, but I'm trying to be sure what a bundle-less PC with just Vista can do with PDFs.

    TIA
     
  2. marioman38 macrumors 6502a

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    Nope, it asks you to look on-line for a program to open it, then brings you to a Adobe Acrobat download page..
     
  3. nagromme thread starter macrumors G5

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    Thanks. I'm writing some instructions for Windows users and hoped I could skip the "requires Adobe Reader" line.
     
  4. apfhex macrumors 68030

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    Sadly, no. You'd think they could have at least gotten that done by now.
     
  5. nagromme thread starter macrumors G5

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    Well hey, at least they can finally play DVDs :)
     
  6. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    As I understand it, it was commercial wrangling and not a technical obstacle. Some betas of Vista had it. But Microsoft did nonetheless dig this hole for themselves, particularly with the whole metro thing.... :rolleyes:™
     
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  8. VanNess macrumors 6502a

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    Here is a simple online tutorial on how to use Windows Vista :)
     
  9. clevin macrumors G3

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    M$ will be sued to broke if they bundle too many stuff. Firefox under windows doesn't contain flash neither.

    To creat PDFs, under windows, only free stuff I know is Openoffice, which can export files to PDFs. the printing to PDF is one of the best features OSX has over windows.

    Also, Firefox under windows is switching to Cairo, one of the features of cairo is drawing to PDF, so its possible firefox 3.0 will be able to save webpage into PDFs under windows.
     
  10. nagromme thread starter macrumors G5

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    Whoah! LOST flashback!

    Sage advice, though.
     
  11. flyfish29 macrumors 68020

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    That just scared the crap out of me- I clicked it and turned around to go towards the kitchen counter and I hear that!:eek: I had my volume up really loud too!
     
  12. CaptainHaddock macrumors 6502

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    I'm sorry, Vista can't display PDFs?

    This whole thread deserves a big "ha ha" and a picture of Nelson.
     
  13. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Why doesn't MS just bundle Acrobat Reader and Flash with the OS? Doesn't Apple? (well Flash not Acrobat reader ;) )
     
  14. apfhex macrumors 68030

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    [​IMG]

    What do you mean by "commercial wrangling"?

    Apple did it, dunno why MS can't?
     
  15. nagromme thread starter macrumors G5

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    Maybe MS was trying to push their own replacement for PDF? I can see Adobe would withhold cooperation in that case.

    But it's hard to imagine Adobe stopping Microsoft from including PDF support--Adobe WANTS their format to stay strong and be easier to use, and Reader is free anyway. Ditto for Flash player.

    And it's hard to imagine the law requiring MS NOT to bundle 3rd-party compatiblity. (The law might require the reverse sometimes.) But the law often surprises me :)

    So it does seem likely that MS is intentionally not supporting the standard. But who knows--I'm curious myself.
     
  16. jaw04005 macrumors 601

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    Microsoft and Adobe couldn't come to an agreement, and Adobe threatened to sue. Microsoft had to remove built-in PDF support from both Vista and Office 2007. However, Microsoft does offer a "save as PDF/XPS" feature download for Office 2007.

    The rumor is Adobe wanted Adobe Reader bundled to off-set Vista's system-wide XPS service (smilar to Mac OS X's PDF service), which Microsoft built.

    http://news.com.com/2100-1012_3-6079519.html
     
  17. clevin macrumors G3

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    now thats what I called "fact" and thanks for the info, 1000000 times better than blindly bashing.

    and yes, users can download adobe reader 8 for free. Adobe would be bury itself if it doesn't provide windows a free pdf reader.

    And yes, M$ and adobe are in direct competition, while apple is not.
     

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