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dejo

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stcanard said:
Not a single Bond film in history has actually been based on the book it was named after.

You obviously have never read any of the books then. Go read "From Russia With Love" and come back when you're done.
 

dejo

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Mav451 said:
Uh since when did Denzel measure 4ft? He's listed at 6ft http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/denzel_washington_biog.html. I am pretty shocked at the response you two guys are having (the general assumption that you are white).

And I am sorry, but the "4ft" comment is blatantly racist. There is no denying it.

Yes, it is obvious the Bond franchise is built on the "tall, dominant white man", but that does not give you an excuse to shoot off racist comments. How would you like it if I accused you of being "4ft" and "old and balding"?

You might want to reread edesignuk's posting again and pay attention this time before spouting off like that. He never said Denzel was 4ft.
 

Mav451

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Wow I don't know what happened to me there...I guess I got angry over a stupid misunderstanding.

Anyway, I'm sorry to edesignuk if it looked like I was in anyway libeling you.
 

bigandy

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Bond, if you read the books, was always meant to have a cold, evil streak, something left out of most, if not all, of the films.

ian flemming also wished him to be a scot, which is why sean connery got the part for the first films.

dougray scott would be perfect.

no chance it'll be a yank, unlikely it will be an englishman (hugh grant?? couldn't think of someone worse to play him!), certainly wont be bloody mr musical hugh jackman.
 

Lacero

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Ewan McGregor reprising his role from "Down With Love" for Bond's next movie musical, "Casino Royale". I say break from tradition and give us a musical reminiscent of the '50's.
 

edesignuk

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Mav451 said:
Anyway, I'm sorry to edesignuk if it looked like I was in anyway libeling you.
No problem...now ;) Just glad I wasn't around to see the post at the time, I would have gone bonkers!!!!!! :D :p
 

SiliconAddict

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patseguin said:
What about Colin Ferrel (sp?)?

That COULD work. I thought he did an excellent job in the The Recruit which is one of the closest Bondish movies he's made. The thing I don't like about Ferrel is that he's two much of a twig. I don't know. I just think he's too skinny for the roll. :confused:
 

HiRez

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Laslo Panaflex said:
In my opinion the last great bond movie was Goldeneye, so it's good to see that the same director is going to head up Casino Royale.
I totally agree with you, it's a good sign. Goldfinger is my favorite Bond of all time and Goldeneye is easily my favorite of all the modern Bond movies (probably the best since For Your Eyes Only or possibly Octopussy IMHO). So the formula is simple...find us another Bond property with the word "Gold" in it and it'll be great!
 

solvs

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SiliconAddict said:
I've got mixed feeling about this. Has anyone actually read Casino Royale?
Read? No. Seen the original? Yes. It was horrible. Horrible. Started out ok, but just kept getting worse. The end was just rediculous, even if it was supposed to be comedic.

I hope this new one is better, but I'll probably just wind up waiting for it to come out on video.
 

Brize

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stcanard said:
Not a single Bond film in history has actually been based on the book it was named after.

I expect this one to be no different.

I think OHMSS is generally considered to be the most faithful adaptation.
 

timmyb

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Clive Owen is the only sensible choice. COnsidering they want to take Bond back to the beginning, (Casino Royale was the first book) it makes sense to get an actor with a good pedigree (Oscar-nominated Owen) to play the role that could take Bond into a darker, grittier dimension. Flash gadgets may be cool, but the Bond series is losing badly to Bourne and needs a powerful main man to take up the challenge.
 

mpw

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virividox said:
yeah im sorry a black bond just wont do. 20 movies with white bonds...chaging a the formula now would be stupid

Why not? Connery was a convincing Japanese in "You Only Live Twice"

aloofman said:
Maybe they could use the "Casino Royale" story and give it a different title, like the vague names the recent ones have had.

"Casino Royale with Cheese" ?
 

parrothead

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I am a huge fan of the Bond movies, but I really did not like the latest one. One of the hallmarks of the Bond franchise is that the stunts were all real. The guy that skied off a cliff and pulled the union jack parachute: REAL. Kite surfing off a iceberg created tsunami: FAKE. The last couple of moives had some super fake stunts. I just hope they get away from the hyped up CGI caffeine driven crap and go back to real stunts, and an air of mystery and tension.

Side note: Favorite Bond: Roger Moore (probably because he was the first one I saw. Favorite Bond Movie: On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
 

Piarco

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rkphoto said:
Alright I've heard all the rumors about who's going to be the next Bond and the answer seems like a no brainer to me- Hugh Grant. Who better to play the smarmy, middle aged yet eternally young British agent.

Scariest.Thing. I've.Ever.Read.
Are you being serious? I hope not! Hugh Grant would be TERRIBLE as Bond. I doubt you'll find any Brit backing that particular horse. The man has no edge whatsoever, and plays inheritantly a cartoon character of his actual self.

Oh, and swap "smarmy" for "smooth" :D

Onto my tupence for the next Bond:

Colin Farrell: Too young, too short (he is only 5'8" - Bond needs to be tall!) And his real life personality would detract from the role.

Ewan McGregor: Same as Farrell (although I do respect him a damn sight more), Oh, and he is already Obi Wan Kenobi! Bond as well?!? Thats just being greedy!!

Hugh Jackman: Right age, height and looks. If he has a good British accent, a decent possibility

Clive Owen: Possibly the best fit for the role. Can easily but the darker edge back into Bond.

Had a big discussion about this with the rugby team I'm in at the weekend, and all were agreed its between Owen and Jackman. And a return to the supervillans of old (S.P.E.C.T.R.E baby!!!!) would be quality....
 

Sun Baked

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Diatribe said:
Clive Owen all the way.
I think he'd make an awesome Brosnan replacement. Now if they could get the movies to not suck anymore I'd be a happy camper.
You want to get rid of the eye-candy and replace it with dialogue, and a story...

That would almost be as bad as putting realistic FX into a movie, people wouldn't know what they were watching. ;)

The dialogue and minimal plot is only there to fade you into the next explosion and fight scene.
 

Diatribe

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Sun Baked said:
You want to get rid of the eye-candy and replace it with dialogue, and a story...

That would almost be as bad as putting realistic FX into a movie, people wouldn't know what they were watching. ;)

The dialogue and minimal plot is only there to fade you into the next explosion and fight scene.

I don't mind nice FX at all, even if they are a bit unbelievable but the lack of decent actors and a plot that doesn't suck makes it sooo much worse than the first couple of Bond movies.
I guess it's hard to recapture the atmosphere of those movies just as it seems to have been hard to recapture the one of Star Wars 4-6.
 

Piarco

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I haven't minded the fx in most of the films, but the straw that broke the camels back was (as someone else has mentioned) was that damn kite surfing in Die Another Day. And all thanks to a "huge frikin' space laser" no less! Hadn't they seen any of the Austin Powers movies?!?

If they role back to the style and feel of From Russia with Love/Goldfinger, I'll be a very, very happy man....
 

Savage Henry

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It's a good choice of book for the next film but, man, the rumoured names to play the lead are just dire. The producers should have the guts to go for an unknown who is going to make the role their own, instead of making it an illustrious stop-gap in a seasoned actor's resumé. Put the money into the writing and not into the ego-saturated cast.
 
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