Cheap LCD for gaming?

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  1. goodtimes5 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm looking for a cheap LCD monitor that I can hang on the wall so I can play Playstation whenever. I know some monitors go for almost nothing, but I've also heard that these monitors aren't fast enough and give delays on what is occurring in the game and what is occurring on the screen.

    Does anyone have any tips?
     
  2. jtkellertx macrumors member

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    This may sound evil, but Dell has some pretty nice cheap LCD's.

    Otherwise, Samsung makes some nice ones check on newegg.com try getting one with less than 8ms response time.
     
  3. grapes911 Moderator emeritus

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    What is your definition of cheap? You won't get a cheap LCD that can handle gaming. I'd go with a $400-ish dell 20-inch widescreen. Not cheap, but well worth the money.
     
  4. goodtimes5 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Do you know if these Dells would hook up with the A/V outputs on the Playstation?
     
  5. grapes911 Moderator emeritus

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    The Dell has 4 inputs and this is how I used them:
    VGA - PC
    DVI - Powerbook
    S-Video - TiVo
    Composite - PS2

    You'll have to find a way to get audio (I use my aiwa stereo). The picture isn't the best when using the PS2 or TiVo, but it is very useable. Being that the PS2 does not put out a hi-def signal, the picture is slightly pixilated. You can't get right up on the screen. I still recommend it though.
     
  6. goodtimes5 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I looked up the monitors at the Dell website, and they didn't have response time listed. Should I just assume that it's satisfactory for gaming?
     
  7. grapes911 Moderator emeritus

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    I don't know exactly what it is, but when I game via my PC, Mac, or PS2, there is no ghosting.
     
  8. shdwsclan macrumors member

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    Cheap?

    You have to take a few things into account.
    PS2s do support EDTV.
    EDTV is 720p but essentially 1080i HDLite watered down.
    I recommend getting the ps2 component cable, its basically 5 wires...3 for video, 2 for sound.
    If you’re just going to use this for the PS2 then it doesn’t matter what inputs the LCD has, you can pick up a Component to DVI or RGB converter for about $20.
    It’s even better if the LCD has Component input natively.
    The best units are made by Samsung and Viewsonic(surprisingly).
    I don’t know the failure rate of Viewsonics. There is a nice Viewsonic that you can pick up pretty cheap. Try checking newegg.com. I recommend Samsung since I have never had a problem with them. Since your using this as a gaming screen, make sure you get an LCD with a low response time.
    CRTs have immeasurable response times since their so fast and great for gaming and imaging, but since you want an LCD.......the lowest response time I’ve seen is 8ms.
    8ms should be ok for games. If you get a 16 or 32ms screen, you'll see that games start to look like gelatin.
    Also, many people get problems using component with PS2…..you have to set the PS2 to component output in the menu, switch plugs and then reboot the PS2. I have noticed that the PS2 doesn’t broadcast Component by detection/plug+play.

    Component <-> DVI http://sewelldirect.com/dvivideoadapter.asp

    Component <-> RGB http://www2.dvigear.com/vgahtocovish.html
    (with this option you will need female-female sleeve to connect 2 male connetors unless you find a convert like first one)

    PS2 Component Cable http://www.redoctane.com/componentcableps2.html
    (you can probably get a better cable somewhere else)

    Composite, S-video, and coaxial deliver poor signal quality and using these on an lcd is pointless.
    (you can probably get a better cable somewhere else)
     
  9. shdwsclan macrumors member

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    Also completely blowing grapes911's assumption away, the PS2 does produce a higher definition signal through component which is comparable to 1080i, and picture will be crisp and sharp. Also there are also cheap converters for converting the old legacy mac interface into DVI or RGB.
     
  10. shdwsclan macrumors member

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    720 x 480i = 240p
    720 x 480p = 1080i
    1080 x 1920p

    720i = SDTV
    720p,1080i = EDTV/HDLITE
    1080p = HDTV
    A lot of HDLite tv is advertised as HDTV.
     
  11. grapes911 Moderator emeritus

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    I think I'm going to have to get me some new cables...
    Thanks for the info.
     
  12. seamuskrat macrumors 6502a

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    I thought 480i was SDTV
    480P was progressive scan SDTV AKA EDTV
    720P and 10801- HDTV

    Some plasma EDTV systems use downscaling HDTV to a monitor with less pixels.

    A good lay-person article about the formats http://www.projectorcentral.com/video_signals.htm
     

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