Hi all, I used to be a Civ 2 fan but then Civ 3 came out and I liked the rules on trading resources and the need for roads, etc.... The one thing I REALLY hated about Civ 3 was corruption affecting even Democracy. That just sucked. I loved doing the Democratic warlord routine. Also, science was very slow in Civ 3... more realistic, but hey? Who didn't like landing with tanks to conquer America around 0 AD now and then? Was anyone else bugged by Civ 3 rules? And what could they do to improve Civ 4? (My main beef, get rid of high levels of corruption in a Democracy.) And lastly, has ANYONE played a full game of civilization multiplayer, all the way through... or do people realize they are going to lose and surrender before the inevitable happens?