Claim of Samsung as Sole Display Supplier for New iPad Disputed, LG Reportedly On Board

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Reuters specifically refutes a Bloomberg report from yesterday which claimed Samsung is the sole supplier for the new iPad's Retina display after LG and Sharp failed to meet Apple's quality requirement. According to a Reuters source, LG is indeed providing displays for the device.

    Bloomberg's claim had generated significant interest given the tenuous relationship between Apple and Samsung. Apple relies on Samsung for billions of dollars' worth of components for its products even as it fights a legal battle over Samsung's Android-based hardware.

    Update: Dow Jones Newswires offers more detail on the situation, describing Sharp's issues with display production and noting that LG did initially experience delays before meeting Apple's requirements.
    Article Link: Claim of Samsung as Sole Display Supplier for New iPad Disputed, LG Reportedly On Board
  2. macrumors 6502a

    Jan 29, 2003
    If true, this is a positive. No company (or person) should be reliant on a single supplier for so much.
  3. M-O
    macrumors 6502a


    Mar 15, 2011
    they probably had to do this in order to meet the demand. and it's likely they still won't be able to.
  4. macrumors 68000


    Mar 17, 2010
    Planet Earth
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9B179 Safari/7534.48.3)

    I guess Sharp's screens weren't quite sharp enough....
  5. macrumors 68030


    Oct 15, 2008
    I'm afraid that most people here almost make it a surrogate religion to buy everything electronic from Apple, and only from Apple...

    The funny thing will be that as soon as Samsung and LG crank out own "retina" display products, they will be called copycats again, even though they very obviously invented and produced Apple's retina products.
  6. macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Same argument can be used for media. And many on here would argue just that. That Apple should be "the" vendor for books, music, movies, etc.

    I, personally, hope that never happens. We don't want one company with that kind of "editorial" control or power.
  7. macrumors 65816


    Aug 6, 2010
    Damn. I wish it had been only Samsung.

    Wasnt it LG that made all the terrible iPad 2 screen? (light bleed)
  8. macrumors regular


    Oct 30, 2009
    Apple is the one that designed the retina display for both iPhone and iPad. Samsung or LG manufacture the displays according to Apple's specs.
  9. macrumors 68020


    Feb 16, 2012
    would they be allowed to use the "retina" name?

    EDIT: seems the retina is an Apple brand.


    the manufacturers will have to design a product development cycle though.

    the fact that they can design a cycle that can produce such screens is almost as amazing as the retina display itself.
  10. macrumors 65816

    Mar 10, 2003
    Clearly some credit goes to all parties involved. I know that on Friday I'll have an incredibly high resolution (for its size) display in my hands, and Apple will be the only one offering it to me at that time.
  11. macrumors 68020


    Feb 16, 2012
    fair point. At least Apple have been the first this time.
  12. macrumors regular


    Oct 30, 2009
    Right. What's the most important in the Samsung (and LG) deal is their infrastructure. They can do the job fast in large scale with good quality.
  13. macrumors G4


    Mar 24, 2006
    Please please please don't let me get an LG screen.
  14. macrumors 65816


    Jan 23, 2006
    Where I live
    As much as I like my phone and Mac, I hope we will never see an iED-209...
  15. macrumors 68020

    Mar 11, 2009
  16. macrumors 6502

    Mar 30, 2008
    Interesting seeing people would prefer the samsung panel. I'm hoping for the LG. Frankly I'd prefer a Sharp product, but looks as though they won't be coming out for a while.
  17. macrumors newbie

    Mar 14, 2012
    i've used some of Samsung. they have good look and works well. i'm looking forward for the new iPad.
  18. macrumors regular


    Dec 13, 2007
    Apple design Retina?

    I don't think Apple designed retina display. Samsung or LG or Sharp who are good in designing and developing super high resolution displays did it and Apple is using its marketing technique by naming it as "retina" taking all the credit to implement OS that support such resolution.
  19. macrumors Pentium


    Jan 28, 2009
    Quebec, Canada
    So hum... why is the "Samsung sole responsible for iPad display!" news article on the front page and main discussion area and the rebutal buried in the iOS blog section ?

    Because the truth will generate less hits/revenue for MR ? Come on guys, a bit of journalistic integrity wouldn't harm you. You made headlines that got rebutted ? Man up to it.

    Apple doesn't design displays or components. Heck, look at the date and contents of this particular Engadget piece :

  20. macrumors 6502


    Jan 11, 2012
    yah :( I was really hoping sharp could pull it off. I hate seeing corrupt business' getting richer

    To anyone that says Apple does not innovate. Mac product designs. OS X. iOS. Maybe you have told your copycat device company the creator so many times that it stuck.
  21. macrumors newbie

    Mar 20, 2012
    Umm... aren't specifying and actually building entirely different things? For example I can specify for my future residence I want 200 floors and 2000 rooms. Unless someone has the tech to build that my designs are worthless.
  22. macrumors regular


    Oct 30, 2009
    Not if "specifying" involves a good idea and technological advances that no one else has it. For instance, like when Apple designed the Retina with the pixels on a different level elevated from the layer that carries the signals to avoid interference and produce a very clear image with the pixels so close to each other. Samsung, LG or Sharp, none of them owns that. Apple tells them what and how to do it and they do it. If they don't do a good job at it, like Sharp was having a hard time, they reject it and ask them to improve their production process. Now Sharp fixed it and is back at manufacturing the displays along with Samsung.
  23. macrumors newbie

    Mar 20, 2012
  24. macrumors newbie

    Mar 20, 2012
    Do you have on good authority that is actually owned/invented by Apple? Apple videos brag about many things they didn't necessarily invent, but are simply the first to incorporate into a product. In the 4S video for example one gets the impression the 8 megapixel camera was completely in-house when in fact it's a Sony camera.
  25. kdarling, Mar 20, 2012
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2012

    macrumors demi-god


    Jun 9, 2007
    Device engineer 30+ yrs, touchscreens 24+.
    Yes, that's what Apple says on their iPad ad page.

    I just spent a couple hours researching this, tracking down patents, companies and people.

    The SHA (Super High Aperture) display that Apple is supposedly talking about was invented by Sharp in Japan over a decade ago.

    An engineer named John Zhong also worked on similar things for OIS Optical Imaging Systems in Michigan and for LG/Philips in Korea.

    Years later, Zhong went to work at Apple, where he is now a Director of Engineering, which is apparently why their ad can say "Apple engineers". (I cannot find a high aperture patent assigned to Apple.)

    SHA is reportedly used in up to 1/4 of current high resolution displays. It looks like Zhong... being familiar with it... wanted SHA used in the iPad 3 display, and either specified it or a variant.

    That's what I've found so far. Btw, there are some claims going around that the SHA patent belongs to Zhong, but I've found no evidence of that. They might've been confused by his other work for OIS and LG.

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